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Why wont conical bolts work with ball seat wheels?

15K views 11 replies 8 participants last post by  corradog60stage4  
#1 ·
Why? Apart from the obvious difference in seat why wont the coni bolts hold the wheel in place?
 
#8 ·
Actually, they WOULD work. But they wouldn't work RIGHT. Each arrangement is designed to have X amount of metal area with Y amount of clamping pressure distributed across it. When you change the bolt-type, you end up with a very small area of the bolt actually pressing against the seat. This results in 'Y x whatever' force on 'X / whatever' area.

This could be a very bad thing, under certain circumstances. Things could crack, or the bolt might work it's way loose.
 
#11 ·
I actually tried the stock ball seat bolts on aftermarket conical wheels and it actually wouldn't work. The bolt didn't seat deep enough into the wheel and all I could get was about one and a half turns on the threads (you should have three minimum) because the bolt just wasn't long enough. I'm pretty sure that if you got a longer ball bolt it would work, but why do it that way if you're buying new bolts anyway, buy the right ones. Right?