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Passat 1.8t 105k w/broken timing belt

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#1 ·
New to VWs and I have a few questions.

Looking at a used 2000 Passat with 105k on the tick and a broken timing belt. Should I have any concern about bent valves or damaged pistons? Thanks.
 
#2 ·
Yes, I can guarantee you have at least a number of bent valves.

105k miles is an interesting number, because that is precisely the VWoA-prescribed timing belt replacement interval, which many of us feel is too long for those who rack up average or shorter-than-average annual mileage.
 
#4 ·
1.8t + Broken Timing Belt = Guaranteed Head Damage.

You'll have a few bent valves and a good bit of other damage as well. The only thing that might make it worth it is to pick it up for < 1K and you'd be looking at 3-4K for a Head rebuild for an ATW Engine Code.

You'd end up with a 5k Passat, which isn't TOO bad, but It depends on what you'd want to do w/it.

Hope this helps!

~Epyon
 
#5 ·
So, essentially, this vehicle needs a new engine, correct?

If so, then what would be a fair price to purchase this vehicle for? It's a 2000, the body is in good condition with leather interior, moonroof, and 5 speed trans.
 
#6 ·
No, it wouldn't need a whole new engine, you'd just need to rebuild the upper-half (the head). That's assuming that the pistons are OK and it's just valve damage, that is....

I also have a 2000 1.8T that I picked up with 63K on it last June, and I love it.

IMO, I'd say it'd be worth it if you could pick it up for <1k. If you're up to taking care of the maintenance of a german car, and want to reap the benefits of it, then go for it.

All in all, you'd be paying about 4-5K on it, which isn't that bad for a Nice passat that JUST broke 100k.

keep badgering them about how damaged the Engine is because the T-belt broke, and you should EASILY be able to get it under 1k. We actually just had a guy pick up a 2000 1.8t Tip sedan for only $350 after the T-belt broke and the car had been kept spotless.

Good luck!

~Epyon
 
#7 ·
keep badgering them about how damaged the Engine is because the T-belt broke, and you should EASILY be able to get it under 1k. We actually just had a guy pick up a 2000 1.8t Tip sedan for only $350 after the T-belt broke and the car had been kept spotless.
The guy who has this vehicle sounds like he doesn't want to come off of $2.5k, even after acknowledging how much damage the engine potentially has.
 
#15 ·
I concur. The head will cost $1000 (used), $13-1500 rebuilt, or $2200 VW factory rebuilt head + other parts, labor, easily $3-4K if you do all the work yourself and assuming that the pistons are OK. My TB job done by me came to over $3800 excluding my own labor. Compare to blue book value of that year car and decide what it's worth to you.
 
#16 ·
My indie helped cover my head rebuild with used parts from his yard, but I'd like to think it wouldn't cost THAT much for a head rebuild. More like $1500 to $2000. If you buy a 'pre-built head, then swapping it on isn't going to take too long, either.

But you're essentially buying a rolling shell. Explain to the guy that the car 'running' would be worth about $5k at the most, and that you're looking at $3k worth of repairs, so $1,500 is the most you'll spend. Then give him a week to think about it before checking back. If he won't budge, then shrug your shoulders and walk away...

To put things in perspective, a friend of mine just bought a '96 Talon with 120k miles in excellent shape, fully running, for $1,500.
 
#18 ·
It cost PZ like 1200 I believe to have his heads rebuild on his v6. I guessing you could find/get a head rebuilt for 600-1200, add another 600 for new belt, and gasket set, I would not pay more then 1500 for the car with a broken TB>