I would vote ECU chip.

 

brand? Theres tons of info on the stupid 1.8T chips, but not much on the v6.

 

Coam

 

Neuspeed chip for the V6. Neuspeed is a little mild for the 1.8T boys but perfect for the V6. Also CA Smog legal. Not everyone else can give you that assurance.

 

Ah, sounds good. Neuspeed always seemed like a good reliable brand (not the cheapest or the most agressive)...but CA smog legal does matter to me. Ill check that out

 

brand? Theres tons of info on the stupid 1.8T chips, but not much on the v6.

I sense turbo envy.

 

If I had a v6 i would do a GIAC /Neuspeed chip, Lightened pulley, BMC CDA, exhaust, lightened flywheel for a manual, level 10 torque converter for an automatic, ignition upgrade, port/polish the heads.

 

No turbo envy, I like my reliability and low end power.


And I may one day supercharge my v6....I like having the power potential.

 

Get a GIAC chip, COAM, exhast, sus kit. It will rock man. I just got a GIAC chip and did a COAM(30min of easy work and lots of :beer: :beer: ). It flyes man. I was about even with a 1.8T wett chipped passat. I killed him up hill but He pulled away about two cars away down hill(gaining in the end but stopped 115mph). I will have him on flat land using tip next time.

 

Neuspeed chip for the V6. Neuspeed is a little mild for the 1.8T boys but perfect for the V6. Also CA Smog legal. Not everyone else can give you that assurance.

Unfortunately the member "lipper" who recently sold his B5.5 for a G35 posted rather negative reviews on the neuspeed V6 chip . . . . therefore i'm hesitant about purchasing it.

Dave

 

from what little info i have found, ive seen giac dyno 149whp where is my upsolute put down 153whp..... have not seen any dyno #'s on a neuspeed though so try and find something before you buy, numbers dont lie...



-deez

 

from what little info i have found, ive seen giac dyno 149whp where is my upsolute put down 153whp..... have not seen any dyno #'s on a neuspeed though so try and find something before you buy, numbers dont lie...



-deez

You'd be a fool to believe that those numbers mean anything. The UPsolute chip was already proven to not work.

The difference in numbers can be due to: different dynos (makes a HUGE difference), different atmospheric conditions, different engines (not every engine puts down an equal amt of HP), yadda yadda yadda . . .

The only way to properly dyno these chips is to use on stock car, all on the same day with preferably minimal time inbetween chip swaps in order to keep atmospheric conditions the same.

Dave

 

GIAC vs. WETT

Any input whether to get the WETT from the GB that just started or the GIAC? I have a 2003 V6 that I want to chip but can't decide.

 

You'd be a fool to believe that those numbers mean anything. The UPsolute chip was already proven to not work.

The difference in numbers can be due to: different dynos (makes a HUGE difference), different atmospheric conditions, different engines (not every engine puts down an equal amt of HP), yadda yadda yadda . . .

The only way to properly dyno these chips is to use on stock car, all on the same day with preferably minimal time inbetween chip swaps in order to keep atmospheric conditions the same.

Dave

i know, but thats just way to much b.s. to see a possible 5whp difference. i do want to try that out but nobody around here has a v6 b5 that has a chip period...let alone a giac or wett. im kinda a loner here in buffalo ! my big thing was just the comparison of the 2 . apparently my upsolute isnt hurting too much if a giac ran less whp, right ? taking in to consideration all of the outside factors, i still dont think i would have compared that well if the upsolute was that bad !


-deez

 

i know, but thats just way to much b.s. to see a possible 5whp difference. i do want to try that out but nobody around here has a v6 b5 that has a chip period...let alone a giac or wett. im kinda a loner here in buffalo ! my big thing was just the comparison of the 2 . apparently my upsolute isnt hurting too much if a giac ran less whp, right ? taking in to consideration all of the outside factors, i still dont think i would have compared that well if the upsolute was that bad !


-deez

You're still getting it wrong . . . the upsolute was PROVEN to have decreased #s than stock . . . . hell an UPsolute rep even did the dyno himself.

Your 151 whp and the GIAC 143whp do not compare at all . . . i bet if you went on the same dyno as the GIAC, you'd run lower than the giac . . . . probably 138whp or less. Hell . . . there are dynos where S4s dyno 180whp . . . Julian's SC'd V6 only dyno'ed 190whp.

Dave

 

No turbo envy, I like my reliability and low end power.


And I may one day supercharge my v6....I like having the power potential.

you saying that 1.8t have no low end power...? :icon_eek:

 

How 'bout 10% HP for about $30?
Barometric Pressure Mod yields 10% HP/TQ gain
I'd like to see someone try this on a V6...

 

i can do this with vtune...adjusting timing...

 

http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179772

 

on a 1.8t the boost in raised...on v6 pacent might be right.

 

http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179772&highlight=dinan

Here's the post:

Those who already have a chip, I really don't think your chip made a whole lotta difference as far as hp is concerned. Chip manufacturers can "improve throttle response" by making the gas pedal more sensitive to driver input...giving the illusion of more power. It is difficult to extract a lot of power out of NA cars using bolt ons, and even more difficult with just an ECU upgrade.

Dinan, for example, has been in the car modding business for 25 years now, a good 10 years longer than GIAC. Unlike GIAC, Wett, APR, and the other VW tuners, Dinan is also acknowledged and supported by BMW. The ECU software upgrade Dinan puts out for bmw's 3 liter and 2.5 liter engines yield absolutely zero hp gain. They admit to this on their website. They also admit they change the DBW programming on the car to give the illusion of more power. Go ahead and look it up on dinan's website: www.dinanbmw.com

I suspect these chips for our v6's do the same thing with very little or no horsepower increase. Does someone wanna prove me wrong by throwing their car on a dyno?

As a V6 owner I do agree with it to an extent . . . . however every V6 I've ridden in / driven that's chipped has had a noticable peppier spot in the middle of the RPM range. ~3k-3.5k there's a dead spot in the power band which is eliminated by the chip. I also do believe that they achieve a higher peak HP by leaning out the fuel mixture at the very top end thus producing higher numbers . . . however, whether or not the peak HP will do anything for you is highly arguable. As for "throttle response" its hard to judge since for most people IMO, its a placebo effect.

Dave

 

My 1.8t laid down 167hp @ 4700 rpm and 201 lbs tq @3700 rpm on the dyno. So the torque band for ours isnt too bad since I'm usually above 2000RPMS 99% of the time anyways.

 

I recommend the GIAC chip... I had one in my car and though the effects were minimal 10hp +/- ... it was definitaly more then stock... like everything else it could be complimented by a good exhaust and intake... but for a stock car the single item with the most impact (aside from G2) would be a chip IMO...
~randy

 

If I had a v6 i would do a GIAC /Neuspeed chip, Lightened pulley, BMC CDA, exhaust, lightened flywheel for a manual, level 10 torque converter for an automatic, ignition upgrade, port/polish the heads.

Ive never heard of improving the torque converter would result in a gain. I always thought the main reason to upgrade the torque converter is simply to SUPPORT mass amounts of torque, not that it'd increase your numbers.

Or an ignition upgrade.

But then again - you dont own a V6.

 

You'd be a fool to believe that those numbers mean anything. The UPsolute chip was already proven to not work.

The difference in numbers can be due to: different dynos (makes a HUGE difference), different atmospheric conditions, different engines (not every engine puts down an equal amt of HP), yadda yadda yadda . . .

The only way to properly dyno these chips is to use on stock car, all on the same day with preferably minimal time inbetween chip swaps in order to keep atmospheric conditions the same.

Dave

upsolute chip doesnt work on both V6 and 1.8T? or just not working on the v6