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P0411 / Kombi / P0171 / P1297 /misfire issues 1.8

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#1 ·
My last issue was the turbo and a P0420, but that was solved by changing the cat... and with much help from Steve in Chicago.

Even with the turbo/cat problem fixed I am getting all the codes above and my performance is suffering.

Back when I was having turbo issues, I performed a boost leak test and I found every leak except for one; it was coming from under the manifold. It was elusive even after spraying starter fluid, pinching lines, etc..

I have already performed Vagcom output tests and everything blows, clicks and whirrs as it should.

I've always had a problem with oil spray underneath the intake manifold and could never trace it to anything.

To make this story short, while I was testing the Kombi valve with the engine off, I blew into the hose leading to the N112. I figured with the engine off, it should be closed, right? Not so. Air was passing through with a gurgling sound. I put paper towel down below it.

The vent-to-atmosphere hose on the N112 was the source of the escape and also was spraying oil over the paper towel. I plugged it with a screw, cleared the codes, then drove to Philly and back.

Surprise - no codes at all, when I'd usually have four or five.

As much as I'd like to leave the screw in the hose, the N112 apparently needs to be replaced. Is there anything else I should check before that?

Can anything go wrong while I have this jerry rigged until I get a new N112?
 

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#2 ·
When N112 is energized, the vacuum hose to the Combi valve gets vacuum applied to open the Combi valve.

The rest of the time, when N112 is deenergized, that hose is intentionally vented to atmosphere. That's to allow the Combi valve to close as soon as N112 is turned off by the ECM (the SAIP is turned off simultaneously).
 
#3 ·
I understand that, but when I did the pressure test, shouldn't the N112 have been closed and not releasing pressure? It was the only leak I had while doing the test and all the codes have not re-surfaced since I plugged the vent (1000 miles).
 
#4 ·
It's certainly possible that the N112 valve is leaking, allowing flow between the normally closed port (which connects to engine vacuum) and the normally open (vented) port. If that's the case, plugging the vent would eliminate the vacuum leak. However, if N112 is indeed leaking that way, then the combi valve will see vacuum all the time, which is highly undesirable (it will be open and ruin the SAIP). (The combi connects to the N112 common port.)

Testing or replacing N112 will put the issue to bed.