Info-Base has a write-up. You need VDS-Pro and a computer with a serial port. A proper serial cable as well.


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I take it this is for the second method? Where can VDS-Pro and a cheap serial cable be sourced from? Is Ross-Tech the only way?

Also could you link me to that write up? I can't seem to find it, and the only thing the index thread seems to list for windows is the Alientech module.

 

How-To: Keyfob Remote Windows Up/Down.

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How-To: Keyfob Remote Windows Up/Down.

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Ah, this seems like a copy-paste of the write up over here: Windows roll up with VDS-PRO, which I actually meant to link to yesterday instead of the Ross Tech link I provided. My bad, I don't know how that happened. When you mentioned a write up, I assumed there'd be information on how to get hold of a copy of VDS-Pro and load it onto a boot disk, as well as whether it can be done over Windows 7. Last night I managed to download what looks like the right thing from digital-kaos, but the total program comes up to 525KB. Just wanted to confirm I've got hold of the right version, and that all I need to do as far as software is concerned is get it onto a boot disk/CD? If so, do you know of a guide to do exactly that, or is it as simple as creating a normal DOS boot disk. There's no ISO to be found in the program that I downloaded.

This has nothing to do wih Ross-tech; any cable that has a status led that is a serial cable should work. Google VDS-Pro serial cable and that should bring results.

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Even when I include VDS-Pro as a search term, most of what I'm finding seem to be adapter cables instead of interfaces, and the descriptions of those cables tend to make clear that they're not interfaces and can only be used to extend current interfaces. The only legitimate(-looking) interface I've found so far is this one:

Serial OBD2 RS-232 Interface VDS-PRO VW AUDI SEAT SKODA | eBay

Unfortunately, it comes to around £20 and is from China. Is that the best I'm likely to do?

Thanks for the help again, I think I'm gradually starting to get to grips with this.

 

This has nothing to do wih Ross-tech; any cable that has a status led that is a serial cable should work. Google VDS-Pro serial cable and that should bring results.


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In my opinion the best solution was the Alientech module; I was lucky enough to snag one off of someone here on the forums. The Alientech module allows you to open and close the windows with a series of brief presses of the remote buttons and the module takes care of the rest. To open the windows press unlock 3 times in succession. To close the windows and sunroof press unlock then lock. If you want to "vent" the windows on a hot day you only need to press unlock once after closing the windows. Unfortunately Alientech is out of business but there is another company, Autowindow, which has the same functionality starting from $45.00 (AutoWindow features & functions).

With the VDS Pro method you need to hold the buttons down in order to open and close the windows which mimics the behavior of the newer VWs after doing some tweaks with VAGcom.

 

I suppose best is subjective, but I'm trying to minimise costs as much as possible, and going native seems the cheapest way to do so. The only real cost with either the motordiag or VDS-Pro methods are the cables. I also enjoy the tinkering involved, and I'm looking forward to trying out the DOS method.

 

I'd do it for you if you were in my neighborhood, would cost a couple of beers.


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That's actually a pretty good price (I think I paid about $30 USD for my cable; and, I think mine may have been shipped from China, too.)
Don't make use of the CD that comes with it. Likely to be Virus City - and, you won't need it, anyways.

As for that copy of VDS-PRO: File size pretty much matches up with what I have. My executable is 410KB, and the total size of the folder (with the help file, config file, etc.) is 490KB.

Boot disc:
If your laptop is new enough to boot from a USB drive (yet has a serial port - it's a magic combination, for sure), you can use a program called Rufus to create a bootable flash drive, easy-peasy.
Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
Once you've created the boot drive, just copy VDS-Pro to its own folder (e.g. \VDSPRO) in the root of the drive. Simple.

 

That's what I like to hear. I'll get onto getting this cable, thanks for that.

Funnily enough, I've spent the last week looking into and testing a ton of boot disk creators out there before I even came back to this thread. I tried Rufus days ago and then moved on from it when I found it only installed MS-DOS 8.0 onto the USB, and a YouTube video that I found stated VDS-Pro required MS-DOS 6.22. Are you saying that you've used the version that Rufus installs to do this operation successfully? If so, you might have just made my last week redundant, haha.

Oh, one other thing:
Just in case you screw this up, it's a good idea to first dump the current configuration of the CCM - just in case. Program to use here is called EasyCCM.
That way, you can restore the CCM from your backup, should, well, badness happen.
The program is in Spanish (because, well, why not?); but, it's pretty obvious what does what.

And, I would also just do this for a couple beers or so - but, you're on the wrong side of the pond to just swing by.

That sounds like a really good idea. Thanks so much for the PM to it, it's much appreciated!

 

Oh, one other thing:
Just in case you screw this up, it's a good idea to first dump the current configuration of the CCM - just in case. Program to use here is called EasyCCM.
That way, you can restore the CCM from your backup, should, well, badness happen.
The program is in Spanish (because, well, why not?); but, it's pretty obvious what does what.

And, I would also just do this for a couple beers or so - but, you're on the wrong side of the pond to just swing by.

 

VagTacho can retrieve the Immo key from the cluster.
Theoretically, it can also match a new key to the cluster - but, that version failed miserably for me in that regard. But, key in hand, I was able to use VCDS to match the new keys.

 

I did this exact thing to my 2003 Jetta TDI wagon in 2015 using an old Pentium 3 laptop that had a floppy drive and serial port, bought the serial version cable off Ebay (and of course they sent the USB version by mistake the first time around which will not work but they didn't want it back), and then downloaded everything I needed to make the proper floppy but it took a lot of digging and some trial and error to get the proper combination of addresses and values for those addresses to get my Jetta's CCM to do this. It wasn't hard if you're technically inclined and aren't disoriented by a DOS environment but you can really mess things up if you're not careful...
I'd have to really do some digging to find out which cable I bought and from whom and that information might not be available after this much time but now I want to do this to the B5.5 Passat wagon (that I bought last year and just got going again) too...

 

But, such information is very readily available these days. There's a huge CCM thread at TDIClub.com with that info in it.

A couple more neat things that you can do with your B5.5 wagon:
One-touch rear windows (only from the driver's door, though): http://www.passatworld.com/forums/b...nformation-base/299554-advanced-modding-101-one-touch-up-down-rear-windows.html
And, I pieced together all of the info to enable the tailgate to be 'unlocked when all doors are unlocked. :thumbup: http://www.passatworld.com/forums/b...garage/527842-advanced-modding-102-b5-5-wagon-u-s-tailgate-latch-operation.html

 

Wow, those links are invaluable. First one is beyond my current scope, and second isn't really applicable to my sedan, but still really interesting to read and good to know they exist. If you know of any tweaks similar to this one, that can simply be enabled by changing a few addresses in VDS-Pro, send them my way. I'm sure this isn't the only use for direct editing of the ECUs in Passats out there, and the possibilities excite me.

That CCM thread sounds interesting, do you have a link to it?

 

In no particular order....

Drivers: Really, not necessary. VDS-Pro runs in a DOS environment - drivers just aren't a thing there (hence the need for a serial OBD cable.)
Now, if you're trying to run VDS from within Windows... Drivers are necessary. But, Windows should auto-detect the cable. May be a moot point, though, if you're running a 64-bit version of Windows, where the DOS emulation just doesn't work right (32-bit is, ah, okay-ish.)

"Other car makers":
Unless it's a VAG product, VDS-Pro won't do a damned thing. The 'other car makers' listed on that page are still VAG products.
Every write-up I've read on this (and, it's been a lot) is for, mainly, A4/B5-era VAG products.
Using 'later Passats' as the example... I'm pretty sure that B6 and later can do this as a simple coding change with VCDS (and, that VDS-Pro can't even talk to that CCM, anyways.)

 

In no particular order....

Drivers: Really, not necessary. VDS-Pro runs in a DOS environment - drivers just aren't a thing there (hence the need for a serial OBD cable.)
Now, if you're trying to run VDS from within Windows... Drivers are necessary. But, Windows should auto-detect the cable. May be a moot point, though, if you're running a 64-bit version of Windows, where the DOS emulation just doesn't work right (32-bit is, ah, okay-ish.)

Ah, I see. It's definitely real-mode DOS. In my paranoia, I even ended up making sure it was DOS 6.22 and giving it as much extra usable memory as I could.

"Other car makers":
Unless it's a VAG product, VDS-Pro won't do a damned thing. The 'other car makers' listed on that page are still VAG products.
Every write-up I've read on this (and, it's been a lot) is for, mainly, A4/B5-era VAG products.
Using 'later Passats' as the example... I'm pretty sure that B6 and later can do this as a simple coding change with VCDS (and, that VDS-Pro can't even talk to that CCM, anyways.

Yeah, I was mainly talking about those listed on that write-up, I didn't realise they were all VAG vehicles. I take it this means that I'll be able to apply it to all of the listed cars without hiccup. That's good to hear.

Once again, you've helped immensely, thanks a lot. If you ever get the time to link me to a few of the better/more informative write-ups that you've come across on the subject, or even resources where they can be found, I'd really appreciate it - I'm interested in reading up on this topic as much as possible.

 

There's the mother of all CCM coding threads:
Additional CCM coding and configurations with VDS Pro
^ ^ ^ Very good resource there.

 

That looks really promising, thanks man.

 

It is true that Motordiag can lock CCM so no other tools can read it anymore?

Ok. It was KVW100 which locks ccm.