1) yes, and you will need an upgraded DV
2)chipped ecu can get you a little better milage.. but once your chipped your milage will drop like crazy because your foot will become heavier
3)apr, giac, bunch of others... its like $400-500 new. most people choose the company closest to them.
4)get a boost gauge and maybe vacuum lines

 

Thanks for a quick response.

How much HP would i expect to gain from chipped ECU?
also what is DV? How much does it cost?

 

It's a diverter valve, read up on it. The apr is $400 and it usually gains about 30 whp i believe

 

not sure on exact numbers.
its enough to make it seem like a whole new car though:thumbup:

 

So what is the best chip for 1.8T 2000 Tip passat?
How much power should i expect?

 

http://goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_passat18t.html

Go go go.

 

Get a Audi TT diverter valve. They're cheap off of ECSTuning.com and they will work just fine.

 

$400 is for the AEB

all the drive by wire people get to pay $500.

you could always wait for somebody to sell an ecu in the classifieds thats already chipped. just make sure you match the ecu #'s and have it set to the right tranny.

 

Hey there Son1C, I also have a 2000 ATW, 1.8T. I've got the APR chip in mine and love it. It's the best bang for the buck. I've had it for 6 years now with no problems what so ever. I bought it from someone here with the ECU included. He wrecked his Passat and didn't need his ECU.

Anyways...another good chip would be GIAC. yeah APR and GIAC are the most aggressive chips out there for the Passat. If you do get a chip with the ECU, just make sure the ECU numbers match and you'll be good to go

 

Ive had a few different GIAC programs and have always been happy with them. Eurodyne (Tapp Auto) is another one Ive had that I liked. They charge $425 for an ECU Flash for your setup, They are in Canada.

 

Thanks guys,

Guess i am gonna go with APR or GIAC. Anybody knows any place in Toronto can do this?


To 1fish2fish: How much more HP did you get with Eurodyne? How does it compare to others?

 

Just so you've got it - your ECU will be modified by the chip mfr's 'chip', then the new chip isloaded with their new engine mapping. With most of them, for your engine, you will go from a mfr's rated 150hp to about 200 - so a gain of 50. You'll get more if you put a bigger exhaust, et al. With a GIAC, you can more easily upgrade to a K04, if you think you might do that. With both, you can get options to have multiple programs (e.g., for pump gas, race gas, valet, and stock). For your car, it's not just reloading the VW ECU, it is a mod to the existing one. And with APR, the program is keyed to your ECU, so you can't load it onto others, or put another APR ECU in your car and load your original APR program. I'm not sure if GIAC keys their programs to a specific ECU. Most local shops who are mfr authorized to mod the ECU and load programs do a good job, although if you have APR or GIAC do it, you'll have to send your ECU in to have the mod done, and won't be able to drive your car until you get it back & reinstall it. Your nearest site can be loacated by looking at their homesites and looking up their listed dealers.

 

Wow,

that is alot of helpful information.

some more questions though:

1/ Why dont VW or manufacturer of the Car implement this program (mod) to the car so they can have more HP, more fuel economy?

2/ Is it because there is some damage to the car?

3/ What DV would you recommand?

Thanks

 

as for your first question of 1) No, chipping is not the reporgramming of your ECU.
inside of your ecu resides an AMD branded EPROM chip. i forgot what the E & P stand for, but ROM stands for read only memory. think of it as the operating system, basically. what chipping is, is actually the removal of said chip, and replacement with whatever brand of aftermarket is in question.

as for your #3, the popular consensus is that theyre all good, but theyre spread apart pretty well. people usually stick to what they can get installed locally. here in plano we have auto-scope which does only the giac (i believe), so we see more of those, usually.

1) because it would cost more, for programming, testing, and tuning.
2) it requires upgraded parts that vw doesn't want to pay extra for.

 

Thanks for the quick response.

Look like there is some GIAC's dealers here, so i think i will go with them (if i cant find a used one for a month)

 

Wait, who has a 1.5bar ecu program for a K03, or did I miss something?

 

I have the Forge DV and never had problems with it

 

Forge makes a good DV. Try it.

 

What about Hyperboost HX? Is it good?

 

Alright..instead of making a WHOLE new thread..i'll just add to this one..

I am looking at the ECS tuning.
what the difference between 1 program, 2 program, 3 program, 4 program?
Besides the ECU tuning..how much and what else would i need to get?

Sorry for being clueless about this..and maybe not realizing that it has been answered.

Thanks.

 

1 program means they give you one of your choice. 2 programs means they give you 2( I.E. stock and 93 ) so on and so on up to 4 programs. You use your crusie control to switch through the program you want. Depending on what gas your runing and how you drive.

 

for chipped ECU, does stock octan 91 give much gain? like at least 30WHP?

I want to chip it but still want to use 91 octan though:d

 

the 91 vs 93 is not that much different. A few HP.

 

sounds good,

Al is the chipped ECU interchangable between Tiptronic and 5 speed? ( same B5, same engine code)?

Thanks