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DANGGER25

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Which turbo do you guys think has a faster spool up time, for a big turbo, a Turbonetics turbocharger to3/to4 hybrid with all the goodies, like ceramic ball bearing, basically the best to3/to4 turbonetics turbo you can get. Or the Garrett GT28r. It says that the GT28r is a dual ball bearing turbocharger, and I heard that dual ball bearing turbos are worse than a single ball bearing, like the turbonetics. This turbo would be for my '04 1.8t manual, all insight would be much apreciated
 
wow, going for a big turbo on the 2004. ditto what spanky said on the software, but more power to ya.
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
well, fellas, I talked to a local shop, EIP, they can re-flash any of the ecus you can throw at them. And next time, just anwser the question about the turbos, thats why I asked it in the first place.
 
DANGGER25 said:
well, fellas, I talked to a local shop, EIP, they can re-flash any of the ecus you can throw at them. And next time, just anwser the question about the turbos, thats why I asked it in the first place.
reflash with what is the question. A lot of places can reflash, but do they know how to tune?
 
Why would a dual ball bearing be worse off than a single? Just cause there's another part that can go bad? Not too good of a reason. Has that been backed up with evidence (ie:numerous GT28R's going south)? Good question to get to the bottom of, since all of us at one point will experience a bad turbo...even if you sabotage it yourself for an excuse to mod :)
 
DANGGER25 said:
well, fellas, I talked to a local shop, EIP, they can re-flash any of the ecus you can throw at them. And next time, just anwser the question about the turbos, thats why I asked it in the first place.
Well, Mister Smarty-Pants - in case you haven't NOTICED, it's a lot harder to get good BT software than it is to get a good BT. These people are just trying to help, that's what the majority of us are here for.

not_too_shabby said:
reflash with what is the question. A lot of places can reflash, but do they know how to tune?
Bingo. Oh, I forgot, you don't want any help.

Regardless, I too would like to know the essential differences between the two turbos mentioned. :)
 
DANGGER25 said:
well, fellas, I talked to a local shop, EIP, they can re-flash any of the ecus you can throw at them. And next time, just anwser the question about the turbos, thats why I asked it in the first place.

that's the way to encourage people to help you out.
 
ChkYaHead said:
that's the way to encourage people to help you out.
Besides, I've ALREADY TALKED TO RICH @ EIP...

I called him to talk about fueling options and piggyback systems for OUR cars. He agreed (3 weeks ago) that there isn't much I can do at this point for a big turbo. He assured me the SAFC-Select would work, provided I could scrounge up a wiring diagram for it.

He was very helpful in that respect, but tuning our cars for a BT, not gonna happen.
 
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Ok, first of all I wouldlike to apologizefor the way I acted, but I felt that what Spanky McGee wrote in his first post as very disrespectful to me, as I get angry quite easily when people insult my car in any way. I gurantee you I will be upgrading. When I called EIP they said that they would be able to get me a BT kit, so I dont know what to say about that. I had read in a turbonetics booklet that I got, that a single ball bearing turbo is better, they dont say why. So I wondering if its buyist, or if its te truth. EIP knows how to tune, they made a 600 hp r32, and that will convince me to get mar car worked on by them, it was in Sport Compact Car magazine. I would also still like to know which turbo is better?
 
Here is the straight facts. You're asking the wrong crowd. One of the main factors around here that lead people away from the path of the BT is the piss-poor S/W for them.

Do you know how many people have a GT28R turbo here? 3. And two of them are upgrading to the GT28RS. I think there MAY be one guy here with a T3/T4, and he isn't even in the US. There really isn't a big breath of experience with the BT tuning market.

You've got alot of *by-yourself* research to be doing, besides, ask your *buddies*, the professionals, EIP. If you are going to throw a few grand twords them, you should probably ask them for ideas, instead of saying shit like this:

DANGGER25 said:
they said that they can re-flash the ECU....they have the technology, they can rebuild it. So I am assuming they can tune a passat.
3 weeks ago you wanted to put a KO4 in your car, and now you're asking us if the ceramic ball bearing turbonectics snail is better than the garrett because you saw it in A turbonectics booklet!

So, again.

bwhahahah

I've already wasted too much time on this. Good Luck.
 
The 1.8T forum over on vortex has a lot of big turbo guys, but they are all transverse 1.8T's...You may be able to get some help though.
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
I have been asking around with different people, I was just curious if anyone had any turbonetics turbos on their car, and if they could tell me about he performance. I don't know why you have to act like such an ass to me, I just asked a simple question, regarding the turbos, not about if my car can be tuned with the software.

Yes, I was askin about the ko4, but I decided I wanted more power for my passat. The point that turbonetics made in their booklet was very strong, I would post it up now what it says if I had it with me, but I'm not at home so I can't.

Thanks not to shabby, I'll take a look there.
 
I just want to say that this thread made me laugh today. Thanks DANGER25. You might get a better response from people if you don't tell them what they should or should not discuss in your forum. :thumbup:
 
Here's the deal bro.. yeah, we can tell you what turbo might be better, but we know that when you eventually get the turbo you're gonna have a hell of a time finding sw for it. I mean if money is no object, then go right ahead and sink thousands of dollars into creating a custom sw program. we just figured you might want to know that's gonna be the route you'll have to take if you get one of the turbos you listed.

but hey, we're just a bunch of asses here....trying to save you time and money.
 
What spark plugs would you run?

Seriously though, people here are just trying to help. Post your same message on Vortex or AW and you'd either get no replies or hostility. If you ask about a comparison of two parts and neither one has a realistic chance of being used in your car, I think you'd want to know. If a tuner tells you they have programming, then you should know what your turbo choice is since the programming is, or should be, specific to the turbo. If they say they have programming for any turbo/any MY, they're giving you the infamous "happy beginning".
 
DANGGER25 said:
...I felt that what Spanky McGee wrote in his first post as very disrespectful to me, as I get angry quite easily when people insult my car in any way...
If you consider this
Spanky McGee said:
My vote is for the GT28RS.


Oh good luck finding software.

bwhahahahah
disrespectful and insulting, and it makes you angry... some therapy would do you good.

Maybe I come off as condescending and arrogant, but really, truly - Spanky's statement was in no way disrespectful and insulting. It was a concise, ironic comment on the sad state of tuning expertise for our cars.
 
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