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03" 1.8T AWT cranks but wont start help!!

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3.7K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  Tomvw  
#1 ·
So story is next ...
So gar the car has still been maintained at stealership at vw..

3 days ago i decided to wash the damn thing ....so i started her up, drove it next to the house and turned her off everything was working fine ....
After washing and vaccuuming i wanted to re park the car and it would crank but wont start!!!!

Found out that pump ia not engaging, so i hotwired the relay and with the relay hotwired the car starts up from half the turn from key... Soo i suspected the relay was bad so i went ahead and ordered new one and replaced that ...nothing!

Crank and camshaft sensors are good i checked , speed sensor aswell , as i crank the engine the odo.m. shows roughly 200rpm consistent....fuses are good so im lost...
If i hold down the FP relay manually then the car starts right up , if i lwt go it dies....
Ecu box is nice and dry , no warning lights or stored codes , coil packs and spark plugs are good and recemtly switched , before that tje car didnt have any idle nor operating problems prior to that...

Maybe the ecu relay? But which one is it ....or is there any wireing under driver /passenger seat that i could od nicked during vaccuum?
(Sorry if the english ia bad , im from estonia)-thanks in advance.
 
#3 ·
No the engine isnt flooded...i checked and also i replaced the spark plugs and when they were out i ran the engine a bit without the fp relay and without plugs in...if i hotwire the fp relay then the car starts straight up....if i remove my finger from an open relay it dies immediately...so for some sneaky reason my fp relay doesnt engage ....someone has said crankshaft sensor but my tahho works as i crank the engine smth like 200rpm.s soo im assuming the crankshaft sensor is healthy?
 
#6 ·
Does your car have a switch you may have inadvertently switched off that kills power to your fuel pump relay.....a "safety" or anti-theft device? I would retrace your vacuuming movements looking for a switch on the driver's side.
That is the most logical answer to me. :geek:

Usually when you first turn the ign. switch so that the lights turn on in the dash you should hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds. Do you hear it?
Does everything else electrically work like the power windows/lights/fresh air blower/horn? Trying to ck the ign. switch.
Did you check all of your fuses?
The ECU/ECM relay is located in the engine compartment in that box underneath the windshield usually along with other relays and fuses. You have to unbolt the top of the box to gain access and you are "supposed" to remove the wiper arms and the panel/cover above that box to gain access to the screws but I usually don't pull that panel/cover.
Fuses/Relays/Ign. Switch electrical portion and even the Convenience Control Module/wiring under the front carpeting could be the culprit.
 
#7 ·
Yeaaah .. Soo ive cheked so far ...

Pump is good
Relay is good
Ecm relay is good and gets power
Fuses are good
Fuses do get power
Relay gets power
But i think the fp relay ground switch wire small pin 5 aint triggered.....
Ign switch ia okay
Windows, locks , lights , lamps , instr cluster works....
Checked ecu box- completely dry and still weather proof

First i did NOT get CEL or ECM or ECP light but now they are illuminated also...
And a ton of DTC.s

Like evap
Mass air
Injectors short to ground or open
Maf
Fuel pump primary circuit (altho i guess that could be from me removeing fp relay)
TCM fault
Saip fault
O2 faulty
Aand the shit goes on....

Wondering if bad injector or shorted saip or bad oil sensor would kill the power to pump?


Heelpp!!!