I have 112k miles so I think I am going to have my trans fluid changed at the dealer this week. Does anyone know how much this costs? I just want the basic service done nothing special.
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is it auto or manual? I got quoted like 300 something, and IIRC, some else got in the same ballpark, but mine is a manual. The only reason I even considered going to the dealer is because I didn't have the special drainplug tool, so I bought that off ebay for 30 bucks and got the fluids for like 40-50 and did it myself. They also told me that the manual trans is a "sealed system and never needs the fluid to be changed" :roll: so now my car shifts smoother and less chunky at startup in cold weather, although I think Motul Redline would have eliminated that altogether.
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I was quoted about $275 for my '99 Tiptronic.
As I understand it, much of that costs is the fluid itself.
As I understand it, much of that costs is the fluid itself.
Contact Red Line Oil. I think their D4 ATF is better than VW's and costs less.
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?pvID=111&prodID=57&subcatID=18
Try an independent foreign car repair shop. They should be able to do a complete flush and refill with Redline D4 for much less than the dealership.
Ken
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?pvID=111&prodID=57&subcatID=18
Try an independent foreign car repair shop. They should be able to do a complete flush and refill with Redline D4 for much less than the dealership.
Ken
Fairly simple, just like any other five-speed, except that you need 1) the special drainplug tool (a rather large three-square tamper-proof torx that no one at any auto parts store will have a freakin' clue what you're talking about, mfg. is Assenmacher and I got mine from ZDMak tools on ebay) and 2) a 17 mm allen driver bit (half-inch drive preferred so you can get a breaker bar and then a torque wrench on it when you go to reinstall it) or 17 mm long allen wrench, the latter I was able to locate at Sears. The Haynes sucks, save yourself the frustration and get the Bentley factory repair manual if you plan on further delving into the engine bay. That being said, I have both, and hardly touch the Haynes. The auto tranny has a drain plug (unlike my Olds, Dodge, or Ford), that I *think* you can use a standard socket for, where first you drain the fluids then drop the pan to remove the filter, unless the filter is somewhere else (since I don't have an auto I never cared much to read up on BOTH, but that is the standard place for a A/T filter...) but check up on that to be sure, I am not responsible for what happens to your car... hehe 
A quart of full synthetic gear oil is in the neighborhood of $7-17 depending on brand, so synthetic ATF should not be too far from that. Shouldn't be more than 4-5 qts- so at the most, fluids will run <100 dollars. I used two and a half quarts Valvoline Synpower and the final quart was BG synchroshift II, which is what helped with the cold shifting. I would have done the BG as the full change, but the label said to substitute for one quart was fine as I had already bought the Valvoline. It's always more fun to work on your car by yourself anyway 8)NotAPreppie said:
Your information is completely irrelevant because it DOES NOT PERTAIN TO TIPTRONIC.luvmyb5 said:Fairly simple, just like any other five-speed, except that you need 1) the special drainplug tool (a rather large three-square tamper-proof torx that no one at any auto parts store will have a freakin' clue what you're talking about, mfg. is Assenmacher and I got mine from ZDMak tools on ebay) and 2) a 17 mm allen driver bit (half-inch drive preferred so you can get a breaker bar and then a torque wrench on it when you go to reinstall it) or 17 mm long allen wrench, the latter I was able to locate at Sears. The Haynes sucks, save yourself the frustration and get the Bentley factory repair manual if you plan on further delving into the engine bay. That being said, I have both, and hardly touch the Haynes. The auto tranny has a drain plug (unlike my Olds, Dodge, or Ford), that I *think* you can use a standard socket for, where first you drain the fluids then drop the pan to remove the filter, unless the filter is somewhere else (since I don't have an auto I never cared much to read up on BOTH, but that is the standard place for a A/T filter...) but check up on that to be sure, I am not responsible for what happens to your car... hehe
A quart of full synthetic gear oil is in the neighborhood of $7-17 depending on brand, so synthetic ATF should not be too far from that. Shouldn't be more than 4-5 qts- so at the most, fluids will run <100 dollars. I used two and a half quarts Valvoline Synpower and the final quart was BG synchroshift II, which is what helped with the cold shifting. I would have done the BG as the full change, but the label said to substitute for one quart was fine as I had already bought the Valvoline. It's always more fun to work on your car by yourself anyway 8)NotAPreppie said:
I hope none of you tip guys went out and bought gear oil to stick in your trannies. Use Redline D4 or the VW approved fluid only.
The tip tranny uses a 7mm or 8mm allen bit to remove the drain plug and a 17mm allen bit to remove the fill hole.
Read up female dogs!
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
In case you did not read it all, the second part of my post refers to ATF and if someone does not have enough sense to buy ATF for an auto, he/she should not be working on his/her car. Jdigga asked about the manual tranny. And after referring to the Bentley, the drive bit I mentioned is not listed as a special tool for draining an a/t and yes, the filter is behind the A/T pan. And crew, you got a bad attitude...crew217 said:Your information is completely irrelevant because it DOES NOT PERTAIN TO TIPTRONIC.luvmyb5 said:Fairly simple, just like any other five-speed, except that you need 1) the special drainplug tool (a rather large three-square tamper-proof torx that no one at any auto parts store will have a freakin' clue what you're talking about, mfg. is Assenmacher and I got mine from ZDMak tools on ebay) and 2) a 17 mm allen driver bit (half-inch drive preferred so you can get a breaker bar and then a torque wrench on it when you go to reinstall it) or 17 mm long allen wrench, the latter I was able to locate at Sears. The Haynes sucks, save yourself the frustration and get the Bentley factory repair manual if you plan on further delving into the engine bay. That being said, I have both, and hardly touch the Haynes. The auto tranny has a drain plug (unlike my Olds, Dodge, or Ford), that I *think* you can use a standard socket for, where first you drain the fluids then drop the pan to remove the filter, unless the filter is somewhere else (since I don't have an auto I never cared much to read up on BOTH, but that is the standard place for a A/T filter...) but check up on that to be sure, I am not responsible for what happens to your car... hehe
A quart of full synthetic gear oil is in the neighborhood of $7-17 depending on brand, so synthetic ATF should not be too far from that. Shouldn't be more than 4-5 qts- so at the most, fluids will run <100 dollars. I used two and a half quarts Valvoline Synpower and the final quart was BG synchroshift II, which is what helped with the cold shifting. I would have done the BG as the full change, but the label said to substitute for one quart was fine as I had already bought the Valvoline. It's always more fun to work on your car by yourself anyway 8)NotAPreppie said:
I hope none of you tip guys went out and bought gear oil to stick in your trannies. Use Redline D4 or the VW approved fluid only.
The tip tranny uses a 7mm or 8mm allen bit to remove the drain plug and a 17mm allen bit to remove the fill hole.
Read up female dogs!
http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/
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Jdigga: Fresh VW manual gear oil at ~60K just about eliminated my cold weather issues and some 2nd gear synchro issues I'd had since the car was new. At first I tried Red Line 75W-90 manual gear oil, but found cold weather performance was actually much worse, so I went back to VW gear oil and have had 'better than new' shifting since that point (now at 94K). Some people swear by the Red Line gear oil at high temps, but below 55F my gearbox did not like it at all. IIRC it cost about $30 for the gear oil and $70 labor at a shop with a lot of VW experience.
On the tips, even after 100K, don't touch that unless you really know what you're doing.
On the tips, even after 100K, don't touch that unless you really know what you're doing.
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