2012 Golf R!

Rabbit · Nov 2, 2011

This made my mouth water.

VW Golf R - 2012 Volkswagen Golf R Review at RoadandTrack.com

Wanted to post it in VW news, but I guess that requires an administrator?

Does anybody know what version of Haldex this is going to employ? If it's the fifth generation Haldex, it might be worthwhile.

mfitz · Nov 2, 2011

the golf R should use the new 2.5L I5 turbo

JayTheSnork · Nov 2, 2011

I quite fancy that one. Make mine "Arrest Me Red." :lol:

swcrow17 · Nov 2, 2011

Still...too pricey. Would rather the MS3

Rabbit · Nov 2, 2011

I thought I remembered reading that the MS3 is a torque-steering nightmare. One of the things I like about the Golf R (at least in concept) is that, provided the AWD system is good, power to the pavement should be more even both in a straight line WOT run and when carving corners under throttle. And hopefully it won't plow like the B5.5.

toastermcfunk · Nov 2, 2011

Rabbit said:
I thought I remembered reading that the MS3 is a torque-steering nightmare.

I still love hearing this in almost every discussion about the MS3. If you have hands, torque steer on the MS3 is not an issue.

R36Dreams · Nov 2, 2011

I like it, but if I'm paying that damned much, I'll opt for the vr6 CC instead.

Rabbit · Nov 2, 2011

I'd be willing to consider the VR6 CC if it could be had with a manual tranny.

Pratt · Nov 2, 2011

If this is $31K in the US it'll likely be close to $50K out the door in Canada.

Other cars I'd look at before that one for that kinda coin.

Hopefully VW Canada won't price it stupid, but they prove me right every time.

Pratt · Nov 2, 2011

edit: quick google search has a projected price of around CAD$41,000. So frieght, PDI, taxes will put it around $48K out the door.

NoneRock · Nov 2, 2011

You are getting a lot of car for the price. This is only a couple of grand more than a loaded GTI with the addition of the larger turbo (which alone just about covers the price bump if you consider what it would cost to upgrade the stock GTI K03), all wheel drive, and the number of small touches and upgrades that really add up...This car should be a beast and will whip the crap out of a MS3 on a track....

swcrow17 · Nov 2, 2011

NoneRock said:
You are getting a lot of car for the price. This is only a couple of grand more than a loaded GTI with the addition of the larger turbo (which alone just about covers the price bump if you consider what it would cost to upgrade the stock GTI K03), all wheel drive, and the number of small touches and upgrades that really add up...This car should be a beast and will whip the crap out of a MS3 on a track....

Probably, but wouldn't take it on a track and would still be $$$ up

l5gcw0b · Nov 2, 2011

A chipped 2.0T would be faster 99% of the time, right??

Urlik · Nov 2, 2011

Faster at what? In other words, not always.

I'll be keeping the R32. Can't beat the grrrrrrrr and it's more meaty

At 2:38

Jmacc · Nov 2, 2011

I was talking to a sales guy about a chip for the r and he said it would put it at 325hp~ and 325tq ~.

Tom Parish · Nov 3, 2011

Either the Golf R is a good price or the last R32 was way over priced. You can choose.

The Golf R comes with a lot of kit.

A stage I ECU upgrade by APR gives 322 horsepower and 321lb-ft. of torque on a Euro spec car. Not shabby at all.

Urlik · Nov 3, 2011

The Golf R actually has less content than the last R32. Things like rain sensing wipers are gone. No sunroof on base model but priced a touch higher. High end is virtually the same price. I'll bet the 2.0T motor is cheaper to build than aVR6.

bob the builder · Nov 3, 2011

Well my views the r32 in my opinion is better simple because of the engine more grunt although VW GTIs and such are meant to be better than other hot hatches in this area.

Now something iv been thinking since about 4 months ago or whenever the audi rs3 got announced is what idiot will buy a souped up golf for that price and double the golf, now heres some figures:

VW Golf R 2.0l turbo =================267hp ==260lb-ft ========$33990 - £21350 US

.==. ==. ==. ==. =====================. =======. ===========$49480 - £31115 UK

====Chipped =======================332hp ==321lb-ft ========$34600 - £21825 US

Audi RS3 2.5l turbo ===================335hp ==332lb-ft ========$79500 - £50000 UK

B5 VW Passat 1.9l tdi ==================110hp ==173lb-ft ========$31950 - £20080 UK

All VWs for some reason seem to have a lower list price in America combine that with stronger pound over dollar means all VWs are much less than in europe thats why I also mentioned the country to indicate where it is at this list price. Its roughly 25-30% less for the cars in USA, Canada actually gets the same prices roughly same as britain. Now if you take the british prices on the Golf R add £1000 to make it as powerful as RS3 and its basically the same with a 40% saving which can be used to spend on whatever differences there is but at the end the day you've got the same basic car for 60% of the Audi price.

50 grand on a souped up golf or a Ultima GTR tricky question not. Or another 23 grand and you'll have yourself a Nissan gt-r.

Urlik · Nov 3, 2011

Part of the lower price is the lack of VAT.

bob the builder · Nov 4, 2011

Thanks for reminding me about VAT. Iv actually being loving not not living in britian so much i totally forgot about the horrendous tax there.....hows that possible. But anyways that makes sense and amusing the germans are still running 19% that would make sense reduce it to something like the same if not still higher in britain. My point still remains on the whole golf r vs rs3 though, its like 90% of people who buy a bmw its all for the badge then i can just sit back and laugh when it rains and there getting wupped by a diesel which must really peeve them off.

Urlik · Nov 4, 2011

bob the builder said:
My point still remains on the whole golf r vs rs3 though, its like 90% of people who buy a bmw its all for the badge then i can just sit back and laugh when it rains and there getting wupped by a diesel which must really peeve them off.

:thumbup:

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