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If Vermont seceded, would anyone really care?

It's not like we're losing anything valuable, except maybe maple trivets. I picked mine up a few years ago, on a side trip while visiting my bro in Concord, NH; bought it at a store next to a moose crossing. Hey, I got mine so I say, let 'em go!
 

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Fascinating, and heartening, and encouraging, that people are beginning to wake up and smell the shit.
 

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..."US Out of Vt.!" T-shirts are among the hottest sellers.

....Disillusioned by what they call an empire about to fall...

... Vermont, a left-leaning state that said yes to civil unions, no to slavery (before any other) and last year elected a socialist to the U.S. Senate....

....13 percent of those surveyed support secession, up from 8 percent a year before.....

"The argument for secession is that the U.S. has become an empire that is essentially ungovernable -- it's too big, it's too corrupt and it no longer serves the needs of its citizens," said Rob Williams....."Congress and the executive branch are being run by the multinationals. We have electoral fraud, rampant corporate corruption, a culture of militarism and war...

... Hawaii, Alaska, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Texas all have some form of secession organizations today.

The Vermont movement....has gained new traction in the wake of disenchantment over the Iraq war, rising oil prices and the formation of the pro-secession groups....
:thumbup: I LIKE these guys. However, while I think they will raise some consciousness, I don't find their strategy particularly convincing for the long-term.

ps. Bernie Sanders - :thumbup:
 

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Come to West Virginia, we have a whole county that's it's own country.

The Free State of McDowell (that's MACdowell, boy!). :lol:

There's even a town called War there. :thumbup:
 

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Vermont should join Canada. I grew up in the Eastern Townships of Québec and we used to go to Vermont all the time. I always found that Vermonters had a lot in common with Canadians and I always felt at home when visiting Vermont.
 

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Vermont should join Canada. I grew up in the Eastern Townships of Québec and we used to go to Vermont all the time. I always found that Vermonters had a lot in common with Canadians and I always felt at home when visiting Vermont.
Not a bad idea, eh. Vermont could become the southern Quebecois panhandle. The only issue I see is that some Vermonters already have a problem with English as a Second Language; throw French at them (English as a Third Language?) and I'm afraid the oldtimers would just lose it completely.
 

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It's good to see localities straining against the pull of the central government. It's that kind of give/take that keeps our country stable in the long-term.
 

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This is un-realistic. THere was an event called the Civil War and we all recall the result, Americans against Americans that lead to deep rifts of hatred from the South towards the North and the internal industial base of Georgia, Virginia, and many more.

However if Vermont wants to succeed, I bet Al-Quida doesn't attack them. It's kind of like an insurance policy to seperate yourself from the US to avoid terrorist attacks. However, the United States is a marrage, for better or worse you are part of it.
 

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This is un-realistic. THere was an event called the Civil War and we all recall the result, Americans against Americans that lead to deep rifts of hatred from the South towards the North and the internal industial base of Georgia, Virginia, and many more.

However if Vermont wants to succeed, I bet Al-Quida doesn't attack them. It's kind of like an insurance policy to seperate yourself from the US to avoid terrorist attacks. However, the United States is a marrage, for better or worse you are part of it.
But people refer to Vermont as "she", and the USA is of course a "she", and gay marriage is illegal...

Oh crap, I think the universe just imploded.

BTW, it's Al-Qaeda. I don't think anyone's scared of Al-Quida. ;)
 

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I take this for what it is, a political statement.

To Vermont and Quebec, each of their respective Federal gov'ts should "okay, you can go....as soon as you pay back all Federal tax investments in your locales during the last 231 years (Vt) and 140 years (Quebec)."
 

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I take this for what it is, a political statement.

To Vermont and Quebec, each of their respective Federal gov'ts should "okay, you can go....as soon as you pay back all Federal tax investments in your locales during the last 231 years (Vt) and 140 years (Quebec)."
That's only part of the equation. Either would also have to assume their per capita portion of the national debt. The good news for them is they would be net exporters of maple syrup which would position them perfectly as soon as maple-powered cars become commonplace.
 
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