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i have a 2001 passat gls sedan w/o the monsoon system i believe.

ive noticed that all my speakers are blown and thats because i like bass, so i decided to upgrade and put in new speakers.

i choose the alpine type s comp because i read on another thread that those are good solid speakers to install in the front.

because of install price, i decided todo the install myself, something ive never done before or seen done. i would like to note that im aspiring mechanical engineer and i plan to attend to the university of washington next year when i graduate, not bragging or anyting just establishing that im not an idiot or noob.

i got them installed no problem with spacers and everything, i even soldered the stock wires to the new speaker, not a very good job though...

my issue is that the speakers sound good at medium volume, but when i crank it up to 18 which was do-able with the stock speakers, they start to sound real sh**ty, the same sound that prompted me to put new speakers in. My question is, where did i go wrong? or is it just the speakers...please help
 

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more info is better than not when trying to describe a problem. what else is in your system? stock head unit? any amp(s)?
 

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i got a aftermarket HU, 50w output i think, alpine, and it has a mtx sub in the back with a 250w mono amp connected to that. and in terms of sounding bad, ill turn the volume up to 15 and the tweeters will start to crack like its too much for them, but i thought the idea of putting in new speakers was so that i could crank up the volume and still have good sound, but i guess i could be wrong. im afraid that the solder connections are not good or i got wires mixed up or something, i just wanna know all the things that could possibly be wrong to make my new speakers sound bad
 

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so when i wired them up i put the wrong wire to the wrong terminal, when i was doing it i had no idea of knowing which was positive and negative on the car wiring.... one of the wires was two colors and the other was one color, how do i know which is which?
 

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test them first before guessing. yea i have the same problem they give you two wires per speaker but never tell you witch is witch, at lewast on the tweeters. most mids, the tabs are marked for positive or negative. sometimes if no + or -, they got a red for positive or one tab is way bigger (positive) than the other.
 

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well what is the test?,(may i also add that i didnt have to separatly wire the tweeter, the type s component system comes with a built in cross-over/wiring harness that makes it easy to wire up. the mid has four tabs on it, you connect one end of the wiring harness to two of those tabs, and the other end of the harness connects to the corresponding connectors that have been pre wired into the tweeter. that leaves you with two tabs leftover on the mid that are supposed to be connected to the positive and negative wires that run back to the HU and give you your input.) i had these two wires, that didnt know which was which, and i didnt know how to test them. so i just touched the two wires to the two tabs and turned on the music and it worked, and just out of curosity, i decided to switch the two wires and see if it didnt work. i tested it again, and again, i had music flowing through the speakers. so i guessed that it didnt matter which wire was which because both ways it seemed to work, and i went about my install not worrying about the wires, is that where i went wrong?
 

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Alpine tweeters are color coded and they even tell you which is which in the manual. Your problem is more like related to you clipping the living piss out of the HU's internal amp and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts you have some of the HU's processing enabled (loudness, bass boost, MXE, etc). Also, not having a crossover on the speakers will limit their clean output level.

I HATE soldering in a car. Gear gets swapped too often and most people have no idea how to do it correctly and end up destroying perfectly good speakers because of it.
 

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why don't you read your headunit manual and turn off all the internal sound processing functions if they're on. Alot of them will turn on from the get go with a bunch of them on.

From there, you have a starting point. Then figure out for sure, not based on your belief, whether or not you have monsoon. Just look in the g-damn trunk for the amp. Keep going along the chain until you get to your speakers.

What was the basis of you proclaiming yourself a non-idiot/noob?

You're going to need better analytical skills for a mechanical engineering degree. Little tidbits of information here and there aren't enough to determine whether or not you've screwed everything up.
 

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the amp for my sub was broken so i took my car in and had the audio specialist look at what i had done. he said it looks perfect and my problem is that the speakers arent getting enough juice so i should look in to buying a 4channel amp for the speakers. problem solved. thanks for your input man, just looking for help and i get ridiculed for partaking in a field that i have yet to experiment with. and its not monsoon btw. just trying to establish that im not some idiot the doesnt know wtf is going on, i lowered my passat on coilovers, installed and wired up angel eye headlights, replaced the turbo, and put on a new full exhaust, im only 17 dude
 

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Good job?

Haha, alright well I apologize since you're only a tyke. To make amends I've answered your questions in your other posts.

Have you checked yet to see if any of your internal sound processors are turned on in your headunit?

A search would do you wonders and would easily answer your other posted questions in seconds.
 

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ha alright thanks man, i appreciate it
but the only problem with that is that i do not have the orginal manual to the deck because it came withe the car when i bought it :/
 

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Not sure if you have already resolved your sound quality issues but are you powering your Alpine door speakers with the stock HU? If so, problem is the HU. The Stock HU does not perform to the minimum standards of the Alpine speakers. It will work and sound will come out but the signal (power) from the HU is not strong and clear for your new setup.
I currently still have all stock door speakers and tweets in my car but I have a Alpine HU, Pheonix Gold ZX-450 amp w/ EQL Equalizer running all door speakers and a MTX amp running my 2 Alpine Type S subs. My Mids and Tweets are twice as better sounding with just the deck power but with the addition of the Amp/Equalizer I can control the amount of power and control the sound quality with the Equalizer to an extent.
So quality sound is all based from where the music pumps out of and everything hooked up after that just makes it better.
 
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