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I know a few exist, but the ones I've seen look kinda sucky. Does anyone know of a good (preferably US based) Lotus forum?

Thanks!!!

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Re: Lotus (Esprit) Forum? (Paninaro)

You buying an Esprit?

I usually go to http://www.espritfactfile.com/ to look up Esprit info, they have a forum there. They also have some good FAQs/maintenance/general info pages explaining why no one in their right mind would buy an Esprit
 

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I'm quite familiar with that site, but thanks Mac!

Esprit's appear to be the best "bang for the buck" exotic. If you compare them to late model Ferrari's, they seem like a maintenance bargain!

Luke.

PS, Porsche's don't count as exotics.
 

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I think the best bang-for-your-buck exotic is the NSX. The Esprits are really cool cars, and I'd love to drive one, just sounds like a pretty dismal ownership experience from what I've read. Good luck though, I'm sure you'll have a blast
 

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Well, yeah, there's the NSX. Easy ownerhip, but not as distinctive and hasn't kept with the HP wars.

Of course, this is all from what I have read too


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On side note, what in general is unreliable or otherwise a PITA about owning an Esprit?

Perhaps it's a bit obscure question to ask, but I'm also curious if it's just the Esprit that's unreliable, or does the current also Elise share the smae problems?

BTW- Incase you haven't heard, the new Elise is stated to come to NA in Spring'04. The specs so far are pretty tempting; 1,700 lbs, 0-60 in 4.5secs, $38,500. For better or worse, it also has an A/C and radio. It's also relatively compatible with Honda B, or K series motor swaps, so there's definetly some aftermarket potential as well. Maybe it's worth waiting and saving up for.


<![CDATA[On side note, what in general is unreliable or otherwise a PITA about owning an Esprit?

Perhaps it's a bit obscure question to ask, but I'm also curious if it's just the Esprit that's unreliable, or does the current also Elise share the smae problems?

BTW- Incase you haven't heard, the new Elise is stated to come to NA in Spring'04. The specs so far are pretty tempting; 1,700 lbs, 0-60 in 4.5secs, $38,500. For better or worse, it also has an A/C and radio. It's also relatively compatible with Honda B, or K series motor swaps, so there's definetly some aftermarket potential as well. Maybe it's worth waiting and saving up for.


[Modified by ronaldmcdonald, 12:58 PM 1/13/2003]
 

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Go to the site I linked up and read some of the info there. I would just be repeating it. Most of it is just overall poor design where maintenance is concerned.

I heard about the Elise, and think it's a shame that it's going to be so pricey. In the UK the base Elise costs about the same as a base (217hp) WRX.. I'd love to have a new competitor in the Miata/MR2 market. Should be interesting!
 

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Re: Lotus (Esprit) Forum? (Paninaro)

I have also wanted an Esprit for a long time and that site that Mac mentioned is one of the better ones I've found for info. I have just recenlty decided though that unless I start making alot more money, the Esprit would bankrupt me in maintenance costs.


I have also wanted a 3rd gen RX-7 ever since they came out. Although they aren't "exotic", I think they're damn sexy and can be extremely fast & agile. I think the maintenance costs and reliability would be easier to handle too so this is probably the way I'll go when I start looking for a sports car.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>BTW- Incase you haven't heard, the new Elise is stated to come to NA in Spring'04. The specs so far are pretty tempting; 1,700 lbs, 0-60 in 4.5secs, $38,500. For better or worse, it also has an A/C and radio. It's also relatively compatible with Honda B, or K series motor swaps, so there's definetly some aftermarket potential as well. Maybe it's worth waiting and saving up for.
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For $55k, you can get a Elise from Sun International with a B18C5 (the Integra Type R powerplant)...and it would for sure reign in the engine reliability category.
And 0-60 in 4.5? Even the B18C5 only does it in 5.1 (as tested by SCC), and it has a 50 or so horsepower advantage over the Rover engine...

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0106scc_lotus/
 

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Re: Lotus (stealthx32)

The US version will have a new engine.
 

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Rumor I heard was that it might be the Celica GT-S motor... anyone know for sure where they're sourcing it?

Jinxx: Erm.. The FD RX-7 has plenty of it's own reliability issues...
 

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Yeah, I've also heard that the engine will be from Toyota. I tried asking the reps at the LA auto show, and they refused to say anything. I don't mind at all if it's the GT-S motor with the turbo. I just hope it's not some heavy-ass, NA V6 from the Camry or IS300.

STEALTH- btw, at the aftermarket hall, there was this company also offering motor swaps on the Elise. Supposedly, they had an Elise Exige there (not sure if it's lighter than a regular Elise). They had a Honda K20 motor from the current JDM RSX/Integra type-R put in which dynoed at somewhere around 230hp. The car ran 3.7 secs in 0-60 iirc, w/ slicks.

Nontheless, if you can put in any B or K series motor in there, imagine installing some tricked out B18c, or CRVtec engine w/ ITB's, race cams, ported heads, and other hi-po parts making up to 280hp NA, or even 400hp turbo'ed. That should make up for a fun power-weight ratio in a 1,700lb roadster.
 

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MAc: Hehe, I know with the bazillion vacuum hoses among other things that the RX-7 is no "gas & go" reliable vehicle but I figure it will be cheaper to maintain/fix. Whichever I get will be driven alot so I think of the two I'd rather take my chances with the RX-7. This is all just fantasy for me right now since I'm just scraping by money wise...so who knows, I may end up getting a 944
 
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