Liquid to Air IC anyone?

I don't know of anyone here who has a water/air IC. I think it'd be badass.

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Anyone?

The only one I've seen on a 1.8T was on Vortex a couple of years ago. If you build a water/air IC for your car, you have mad props from me. :bowdown:

Its hot here

Well here in Phoenix the forced induction cars take a huge hit in power during the hot months. The Liquid to air unit is atleast 30% more efficent than a front mount. Plus the core does not have to be as big as a frontmount. I think I can fit it in the stock location and add a resovoir somewere in the engine bay. I would install a front mount cooler which will be only 1/3 of the size of a IC. The key to forced induction is and allways will be keeping the intake temps down to a minimum.

This is why a whipple charger is much more efficent than a roots style blower, and also why you don't see any huge intercoolers on the imports that are running in the 8's. They are all liquid to air.


Chuck

A friend of mine was running one on his 2.0t MKIII jetta. It worked very well.

Sounds like a great idea...let us know how it turns out.

When you guys say water, you mean coolant right? Also, if we tapped into the cooling system, should we beef up the WP or would it still be enough to pump at the needed volume (pressure). Of course it may also depend on the size of the IC.

Also, making it FM would have the added benefits of air cooling too, don't you think?

Chuck az said:

...also why you don't see any huge intercoolers on the imports that are running in the 8's. They are all liquid to air.

Chuck

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If this is true, could we adapt one of those to be used on the Passat?

I assume it uses a special IC, and had a miniture radiator in the front of the car to cool the fluid

Damn, this thread makes me want to fit one on my car...

you're in luck. one of my friends who is also a mech. engineer and a B5 A4 owner developed his own liquid air IC. he is stage 3, and the LA-SMIC works very well. he is "wjm" on audiworld...here is a thread detailing his project:
http://forums.audiworld.com/performance/msgs/67946.phtml

a little off-topic, but are you also planning on water injection at some point in the future?

modifiedA4 said:

you're in luck. one of my friends who is also a mech. engineer and a B5 A4 owner developed his own liquid air IC. he is stage 3, and the LA-SMIC works very well. he is "wjm" on audiworld...here is a thread detailing his project:
http://forums.audiworld.com/performance/msgs/67946.phtml

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That's a pretty clean setup

mmmm

Well that system looks nice but I think the water pump may be a bit over kill, espesially with such a small amount in the resivoir. Mine will probably be a half gallon res. with more or a radiator core for a cooler. The basic idea is there. I would be interested in waht the gains were on that setup.

Methenol/water injection may be down the road but I would need to find a very good tuner to tune the car for that.

Chuck az said:

Well that system looks nice but I think the water pump may be a bit over kill, espesially with such a small amount in the resivoir. Mine will probably be a half gallon res. with more or a radiator core for a cooler. The basic idea is there. I would be interested in waht the gains were on that setup.

Methenol/water injection may be down the road but I would need to find a very good tuner to tune the car for that.

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his pump is thermally or manually controlled, i dont believe any part of the design is overkill, since he is getting great timing advance. remember this is for a stage 3 car, soon to be beyond stage3. :icon_eek: also, in that thread he has some performance feedback via datalogs. you can email him for the details, im sure he's happy to share.