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What we will get I don't know?
From Autoweek.com"
"VW chairman Bernd Pischetsrieder all but confirmed plans when he stated recently that the German automaker plans to bolster its niche market potential in future years rather than relying on traditional volume sellers like the Polo, Jetta and Passat. In a report in Auto Motor und Sport, Pischetsrieder said “the roadster will be built” as a mid-engined model like the concept for proper balance and to more easily meet coming Euro pedestrian crash standards."



 

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great. but does it really fit their brand needs? i guess if they can build it cheap it can do great things but you'd hate to see it consume funds for other new vehicles (can anybody say next Passat).
 

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Next Passat will be announce anytime soon, should be sometimes around late Nov/early Dec. So don't worry VW using too much money for roadster instead of their mainstream models. :)
 

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I don't care, it'll be hot. And its more attainable than the Phaeton or W12 coupe, more noticeable than the R32 and will likely have excellent driveablity. It should be a much better car to boost VW's image as long as they do some decent marketing. I hope it does well, and I hope it beats the Porsche Boxter into the ground. :bow:

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jp110099 said:
I like it. I also found a few more pics of it. And another concept, (sorry I don't mean to hijack).

That is positively badass. I want one so bad! :bow: :bow: :bow:

To quote a conversation I had online with another member:
Scuba2001GLS: it looks like it has a busted lip... but it still looks really nice
Wapptor: ...
Wapptor: it looks like its gonna eat your soul!
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Haha, great quotes there Miles. Its going to be a nice looking car once it hits production. Im just wondering what kinda engine they would put under the body pinnings. Forced induction VR please? :eek:h:
 

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Dunno what engine but I found this:

Cylinders NA
Engine Configuration NA
Aspiration/Induction Normal
0-60 mph 5.2 sec
1/4 Mile NA
Top Speed 268 km/h | 166.6 mph
Displacement 3189 cc | 195 cu in. | 3.2 L.
Valves NA
Valvetrain NA
Horsepower 195.0 Kw / 265 BHP @ 6250 RPM
Torque 345.8 Nm / 255 Ft-lbs @ 2800 RPM
Redline NA
Bore NA
Stroke NA
Compression Ratio NA
BHP per Liter 82.81
Make Volkswagen
Year 2004
Engine Location Mid
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Weight NA
Gears 6
 

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Roadster concept R: Innovative concept, expressive design, outstanding functionality
Sports car concept R: V6 mid-engine, 265 PS, sheer dynamics, tangible future

Wolfsburg, Germany - Just seven days after the world premiere of the new Golf, Volkswagen presents a further facet of automobile fascination: The roadster prototype concept R. The great sharpness in design, seen from every angle, combined with outstanding functional solutions indicates what the Brand has in store for the future and also a possible involvement in the world of real and genuine sports cars. Propulsion for the concept R comes from a V6 mid-engine; It returns 195 kW / 265 brake horse power and accelerates the roadster in 5.3 seconds to 100 km/h. If the propelling power was not governed to 250 km/h, in theory, the top speed would be 270 km/h. The engine torque (350 Newton metres at 2,800 rpm) is transferred to the road via a spectacular Volkswagen direct selection gearbox (DSG / 6-speed) and rear axle. Chosen consciously to provide a contrast, the designers applied colour to the exterior and interior: Frozen sky paint finish, dark earth interior leather.




CONCEPT

Design concept: A look into the face of the future

The design team, led by Murat Günak (Volkswagen Brand Group) and Peter Schreyer (Volkswagen Brand), shows with the roadster concept R how a sports car packed with aesthetics and emotion could look in the foreseeable future with the internationally successful "VW" label. The 4.16 metre long, 1.78 metre wide and just 1.25 metre high two-seater has a convincingly powerful body and an interior that conquers virgin territory in terms of style in every detail.

Anything is possible: Clear linear structure, but cut sharper than ever

The basis for the highly dynamic exterior design forms a very clear linear structure, which distinguishes all of today's Volkswagens. But these lines are set sharper than ever and, with a new appearance, frame extremely exciting and well formed surfaces. This new three dimensionality in the important body elements forms, with the virtuosity of a concept bearing the slogan "anything is possible", a path to tomorrow's foreseeable world. The concept R continues where the Phaeton, Touareg, New Beetle Cabriolet and Golf make their mark to further enhance dynamics and emotion with crystal clear structures and functional levels by placing itself ahead without compromise as a forerunner of Volkswagen design.

FRONT END

Wild and free: The front end of the concept R

A particularly avante garde element of the concept R is seen in the front end with its newly designed Volkswagen radiator grille and large V-shaped air cooling inlet below. The chrome badge, integrating the VW logo in the centre, is where air is drawn in for the V6 engine to "breath" and the new look of the eye-like headlights creates a face that can immediately be associated with the Volkswagen Brand tradition, even though a complete reinterpretation of the design has been possible. The designers were conscious in their efforts to instil in the front end of this sports car the agility and vigilance of an animal about to jump.

The bonnet of the front luggage compartment (mid-engine!) continues the V of the radiator grille extension and contours it upwards to the A pillars. This V is stressed by two flowing protrusions that separate the wings and bonnet contour on the left and right. The wings are designed more as independent and powerful structures and on both sides feature a further inlet for cooling of the front brakes.

LED headlights with lenses: How a touch of life is breathed into a sports car

Absolutely dominant: Headlights integrated in the wings with outer, round main element and an inner part narrowing to a point towards the centre of the vehicle. Inline with the Phaeton, Touareg and new Golf, the wing area is extended prominently to the front above the headlights like an eyebrow and underlines in this way the athletic character of the concept vehicle.

True to this image is a technical novelty in the form of headlights with ultramodern LED technology: As soon as they are switched on, a lens begins to open on each side. Before the aperture widens, all that can be seen is a narrow beam of light and then the full lighting power becomes available for dipped or main beam. The optical effect of this focussing of the "vehicle eyes" makes the "concept R" appear to come alive, inline with the whole characteristic design.

The way future and past can be combined in a fascinating way is shown in the front end with a stylistic homage to the world of sports cars of the 50s: The tank filler neck on the left of the bonnet is finished as an independent style element.




SILHOUETTE

Clear and crisp: The silhouette of the concept R The flank of the concept R is distinguished by: a very flat waistline, rising to the centre of the rear wheelarches; naturally round, heavily contoured wheelarches; and a very short rear overhang. The new design is also continued here with its own fascination in form and function. And again the term three dimensionality comes to light. Inline with the New Beetle, there are just three prominent lines that form the silhouette of the concept R: Two semi-circles each for the high rise of the wheelarches and one straight line closing to a semi-circle at the rear of the waistline.

Furthermore, the three dimensionality of the design is emphasised par excellence in the side rear end area: The surface of the wings above the prominent semi-circles of the wheelarches is drawn into the rear end and is visible only from the rear to form an extremely powerful and independent unit. Similar to the new Golf, the tail lights have a transparent finish, even when seen from the side, and form an important style element thanks to their crystal clear appearance.

Nothing disturbs the dynamics of the sides; Even the door handles, featuring keyless access, take on a subordinate role in the design

To ensure the homogenous silhouette of the concept R is not interrupted unnecessarily, the doors are integrated beautifully and unobtrusively into the design. To support this, the outer door handles are manufactured from a narrow but solid thin aluminium strip. Thanks to the keyless access system integrated here, all that is needed to lock and unlock the door is light contact with the handle as it ejects.

REAR END

Stylistic and powerful: The rear end of the concept R

Typical for Volkswagen: Even the powerfully created rear end features an absolutely unmistakable design. Inline with the front end, the boot forms a V, enhanced by an incomparable dynamic edge. The tail lights correspond in their form with the headlights. When activated, the light is built up in three stages as three LED blocks light up in succession. The tail lights have a round, lens-like outer main element to mark the style. In addition, the second, trapeze shaped part of the tail lights is integrated in the rounded wing edges, reminiscent of the rear of a muscle-packed animal.

Between the tail lights there is a very thin strip of diodes for the third brake light. The designers worked the VW logo into the space above this in the centre. Not until the roadster is seen up close is it possible to see the chrome concept-R lettering on the engine/soft top cover (mid-engine, fully retracting cover) as part of an outlet on the V6 engine. The chrome twin tail pipe of the exhaust system, finished again in the shape of a V, is a stylistic feature of the "exhaling" six cylinder. At each side of this there are two additional large air outlets that are designed like a diffuser.

Future, present and past in harmony: Classic body domes protect and form an interface to the outer world

The dynamic and emotional air of the concept R is underlined by two body domes behind the driver and front passenger in the style of a classic racing car. Not only are they powerful and elegant in their flowing lines, but they also fulfil two very practical roles: Wind deflection and over-roll protection. Integrated in the top of the driver's dome is the chrome GPS aerial and in the front passenger's dome is the GSM aerial.




INTERIOR

Time tunnel: The interior of the concept R

Take one look at the interior of the concept R and view groundbreaking and fascinating form and function in harmony. The interior designers and design engineers developed an interior that has the layout, operating and information spectrum of a time tunnel that paves the way to the future. All information and operating elements are integrated in a new harmony of form and function.

The VW logo in the steering wheel pulsates when stand-by mode is selected - No-one said that technology had to be cold and lifeless

Example: A so-called OLED screen (flexible in shape and form with extremely high lighting power) breathes even more "life" into the concept R. And in a way that is as unusual as it is unexpected. The typical VW emblem in the steering wheel is no longer a tangible reality; It can now be found stored in the round display. As soon as the driver switches on the ignition, that is, when the concept R is switched to stand-by, the VW emblem begins to pulsate. When the ignition is activated, the pulse stops. Even though the VW logo is generated digitally by a display, it has a tangible appearance as if it were made of chromed metal.

Concepts have the power to blow rules to the wind: Why adjust the seats when the cockpit is flexible?

A completely new feature was introduced by the engineers in the way of ergonomics: The two bucket seats of the concept R are no longer adjustable. In fact, there is no way of adjusting them at all. Instead of the seat, the driver moves the polished aluminium operating and information block of the instrument panel, including steering wheel and pedal cluster, back or forth. The adjusting mechanism is activated electrically.

At the press of a button, the front passenger can also find an optimal seating position by moving a highly polished support element back or forth in the footwell. And this position is truly comfortable: The concept R fits perfectly and offers the highest level of seating comfort on long journeys, such as the winding roads of the Nürburgring-Nordschleife - exactly the reason why the concept of selecting the optimal seating position was reversed.




The seats are mounted rigidly but feature innovative suspension; They adapt to the contours of the body, not the other way around - that is the essence of ergonomics

Background: Thanks to a sophisticated and newly developed carrier mechanism, the seats are self-sprung; The hardness of the springs can also be adjusted. The seating comfort is enhanced even further by active foam used in the seat structure, which is covered in deer leather. Developed for space travel and adapted for extremely good office furniture with a price tag to match, this foam is being used in a sports car for the first time. It adapts perfectly like a modulated counter-structure to the individual contours of each body and thereby contributes towards an unusually high level of comfort and provides good ergonomic properties.

Another seat feature is one that promotes safety: When the driver and co-driver enter the vehicle, the head restraints are moved forwards automatically by five centimetres and thereby adopt an optimal position in terms of safety.

The cockpit of the concept R is an absolute highlight; Instruments become sculptures, displays an eventful experience

An optical and technical highlight of the concept vehicle is the instrument panel and centre console. All areas of the operating elements and displays, and also parts of the three-spoke steering wheel (self-climatised), are finished in polished aluminium. As a contrast, the dash cross member is covered in dark deer leather to avoid reflections from the windscreen.

The sports car cockpit captivates its audience by clarity, aesthetics and functional logic. Example: The air vents in the centre console, designed with a turbine appearance, display the selected temperature digitally and can be turned like a dial to set a new value. The combination of display and operation is as simple as it is remarkable. The hand is reached out intuitively to a point where the driver expects the function to be and where the temperature change can be felt directly.

A further novelty are the instruments themselves. The hardware provides digital information here too (with, in places, analogue characters), and here, as the project develops, ultramodern OLED screens will also be featured. Right at the heart of development work was again the need to interpret the harmony of form and function in a fascinating and new way. Example, main instrument or rather main function level: When the ignition is activated (no key required, just simply tap the START switch lightly), it opens up into the centre of the cockpit from the right. In this central display are the classic functions, such as speed or engine temperature.




OLED displays and a multimedia interface bring us that bit closer to the future, to a beautiful and function-orientated tomorrow

As soon as the driver activates the navigation system, however, the display is retracted to the side in the instrument panel to make way for the new instrument: Specially designed to aid route guidance, the navigation display now takes a frontal position and all other information is in the background. Important details that have to be displayed permanently, such as speed, are still large enough to be seen.

The navigation is controlled via the Volkswagen MMI (multimedia interface), a circular system which can be found on the centre tunnel. Via MMI, the driver (or co-driver) can also control the audio system, the ride height and basic cellphone settings. The MMI element and the tunnel are also finished predominantly in aluminium in this area. This also applies to the short and neat gear selector of the direct selection gearbox (DSG).

Volkswagen is the inventor of the direct selection gearbox; The concept R shows that this transmission unit belongs to the future

With respect to the DSG, not only is the selector lever neat but also the whole selection process. And this also harmonises ideally with completely spectacular concept R. As an alternative to the very fast gear selection in automatic mode, the DSG can also be operated manually via buttons in the steering wheel: They can be found within easy reach at the rear of the steering wheel; on the right is the plus button (+) to change up, on the left the minus button (-) to change down. Extremely fast, extremely precise, extremely dynamic. If the concept R were a series production vehicle, there would therefore be only one motto: get in, feel, find a road and experience automobile fascination.
 

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I really dig it! :thumbup:

Those kind of cars (4 seater convertible hardtop) are more popular in Europe (made by Peugout and Renault) -- I don't see why not here. It's a pratical and fun year-round convertible. It should give the Miata, S2000, Eclipse Spyder some competition.

Let's hope they price it right (just under $30k).
 

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Hmmm. Wrong branding yet again? :p
 
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Hey is this the new jetta, never seen this before! is it photoshop is microsftworded i can't hardly tell! :p
 

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I think we will get something like this. More practical looking that the one I originally posted.
 

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...and an interior that conquers virgin territory in terms of style in every detail.
Read: all-chrome dash pod. Oh, sorry, polished aluminum. Still too much bling, and the reflections could be killer. Otherwise I like the 'concept'.... assuming it handles well, what's not to like?
 

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Dunno what engine but I found this:

Cylinders NA
Engine Configuration NA
Aspiration/Induction Normal
0-60 mph 5.2 sec
1/4 Mile NA
Top Speed 268 km/h | 166.6 mph
Displacement 3189 cc | 195 cu in. | 3.2 L.
Valves NA
Valvetrain NA
Horsepower 195.0 Kw / 265 BHP @ 6250 RPM
Torque 345.8 Nm / 255 Ft-lbs @ 2800 RPM
Redline NA
Bore NA
Stroke NA
Compression Ratio NA
BHP per Liter 82.81
Make Volkswagen
Year 2004
Engine Location Mid
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Weight NA
Gears 6
Derivative of the current 3.2 VR6 in the R32?
 

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Next Passat will be announce anytime soon, should be sometimes around late Nov/early Dec. So don't worry VW using too much money for roadster instead of their mainstream models. :)
i know about the new Passat. but it's the principle i'm referring to. maybe when the next passat goes 8 yrs without a major redesign it will ring true.
 
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