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hey all,

Its been a while since I've posted here. I think the time has come to let the Passat go....

2002 VW Passat Wagon GLX 4 Motion, 173,000ish miles, Navy Blue with Black Interior.

Way back around the 4th of July I was driving home and entering the turnpike on ramp....which was a curved down ramp. Experience a shock to the car so hard I thought I must have hit a crater in the road. Proceeded to get on the turnpike and car drove normally, so I didn't think much of it. Then when I exited the turnpike (PA) I again experienced the hard downshifts (what I figured them to be) in normal stop and go traffic. I had 5 total shift events so hard I thought the tranny was going to fall out of the car, the entire vehicle shook. On the last event the check engine light triggered and the engine began to run very rough. I was worried I may not make it home. I eventually made it home, and investigated the next day. The car stalled twice in the neighborhood and I limped it back home were it sat patiently until yesterday. I started the car which I do occasionally to keep battery in working order etc, and was greeted with a 'alternator workshop' message, fantastic I cant do basic troubleshooting with out a solid electrical system base. Among the ton (16) of engine codes generated by a weak electrical system I found:

Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 3B0 927 156 AD
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l5V USA 3939
Coding: 00102
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 68D14D8208B5510A7D-513C

1 Fault Found:
18265 - Load Signal
P1857 - 35-00 - Error Message from ECU

Besides that tranny code nothing else of major concern. I've read the hard shifts can be a failed/failing MAF, but with out replacing the alternator is just a guess at this point. I've already replaced the alternator once before on this car.

Summary of issues: (Cons)

1) Alternator (second failure)
2) Presumed Tranny issues (also whined like a supercharger for a few years)
3) Needs a new heater core (nursed for a loooong time with yearly backflush to get me thru winters)
4) Occasional sunroof leak
5) Transmission probably never serviced, I know I didn't change any fluids in the 45k miles I drove it.

Pros:

1) Generally runs and drives well
2) Brand new Brakes/Pads
3) Basically new tires
4) Generally good physical shape/condition
5) Drives like a tank in snow....like its not even there.


I think i'm probably going to list on craigslist/ebay/here as a parts car, with a preference to be sold as a whole car.

Nick aka syntaxx/syntaxx2
 

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No, I routinely changed motor oil etc. I just didn't change the transmission fluids because it had never been changed prior. I purchased with 125k miles on it and followed the advice to leave it be, right or wrong. I always used Rotella 5w40 full synthetic in the engine while I owned it. Same oil used in my 2 TDIs.

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Presumed Tranny issues (also whined like a supercharger for a few years)
Whined for a few years? Could have been the torque converter failing, but the lack of routine ATF changes (thanks VWOA for calling it a lifetime "sealed transmission") might have caused sticking solenoid valves, causing the trans to try and do two different gear ratios at once, which would cause a nasty shock at shift time. It probably would take a trans rebuild at this point, so it probably is time to say goodbye.
 

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I think "we", (I humbly say that) should have a "post" similar to "What did you do to your Passat ?" or "How many miles do you have on your Passat ?" and titled
" The Passat Obituary" I will admit to having strong feelings to my fleet of Passats I have had over the years and, sadly miss the good time AND some bad with them.......sorry for your loss........, heck just like on your driver license you put "organ donor" I will put in my glove box "parts donor" Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
 

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Yes, whined like a super charger. It started right after I took it to a shop to replace the Y pipes. No whine before I took in, whine after picked up. I suspected they didn't properly support the drive line and maybe put to much pressure one something in there when they did the work. I knew from then on she was on borrowed time. The hard shifts started very abruptly on that one trip home, i never drove it again. There was no degradation over time in the shift performance of the car, which makes me think something electronic in nature. I just cant spend anymore time on it. Maybe somebody can use it for parts, else I will call the junk man and he can take it away.

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Similar issue but not as severe with my W8 Passat. My engine light is on, so it won't pass the echeck. The fault is the torque converter. A couple of different mechanics told me it requires a complete transmission rebuild to the tune of $5K. Ouch.
I'm wondering if anyone out there has a fix that doesn't include a complete rebuild. Love this car, the W8 hauls ass, but can't sink that kinda money into it, ya know?
 

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I second the vote to do a full pan drop and filter change on the transmission. I tried a simple drain-and-fill, and it subsequently rev'd up and sipped, so I quickly followed up with the full pan drop and filter swap and very meticulous refill (right temperature, drip...drip.drip out of the fill port), and it has run like a champ ever since. (1996 A4, 110K hard city miles on odometer, on its third timing belt and third transmission filter and fluid -- preventive maintenance is highly recommended on these cars)
 

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(thanks VWOA for calling it a lifetime "sealed transmission")
I wish I knew this before I changed the fluid with MaxLife. Lesson learned: never cheap out on critical fluid like the tranny one. It always pay off to pay more and get the genuine OEM. <img src="http://www.passatworld.com/forums/../smilies/cry.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cry" class="inlineimg" />

That’s true. I have done two transmission drain and fills. Both times I used $18/quart Pentosin. No problems so far. VWs are very sensitive when it comes to fluids.
 

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I still think I'm going to let her go. Needs another alternator just to get started, then transmission..then heater core. I'm going to list up on craigslist maybe here, not sure anybody is suicidal enough to want it, else the junk man. Any takers :)
 

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I think "we", (I humbly say that) should have a "post" similar to "What did you do to your Passat ?" or "How many miles do you have on your Passat ?" and titled
" The Passat Obituary" I will admit to having strong feelings to my fleet of Passats I have had over the years and, sadly miss the good time AND some bad with them.......sorry for your loss........, heck just like on your driver license you put "organ donor" I will put in my glove box "parts donor" Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
Definitely start this. These cars are 15-20+ years old. They deserve one final hurrah :bowdown:
 

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Or you can do what I did after paying a Dealer $237.00 for the head light switch, I bought my own parts car. I drive by a fairly busy repair shop a couple of times a week. Noticed a silver 2003 (B5.5) V6, 4Mo wagon sitting in the same spot in the repair shop lot for a month. Stopped in and asked if it was a total and was told yea, it needs a cou[ple of grand worth of work. The Mechanic handed me the Fault Code Print Out and yes it was terminal, missing on two tubes, bad cat, couple of other things. I asked if he thought the owner sell it and he said "I bet he would" I gave me the number. Bought it for $300.00. Now I have spare everything, except maybe the Cat. I have the time and do like working on my Wagon. But I am also looking for a 14/15 V6, 4Mo CC project car to sport up after I finish the 79 626 CSI Bimmer now sitting in my shop.
 
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