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Some of you might remember my post several months back regarding O2 sensors, etc.

A week after purchasing my 02 Passat V6 the check engine light came on. Autozone told me to replace the spark plugs and not worry about it. Four months later the car died. No oil in the engine (THE LIGHT NEVER CAME ON!) and no coolant (THE LIGHT NEVER CAME ON!) and battery died as well.

Oddly enough I had an appointment scheduled for the next day to get an oil change. (It had been 3000 miles.)

So my questions --

1) Does the Passat BLAZE through oil?
2) Is it typical for it to just turn on the check engine light versus oil or coolant lights?
3) Does autozone always give you random BS when it comes to those codes?

Took $104 to get a new battery, change the oil and refill the coolant. I also had a mechanic look at the O2 sensors... they are fine.

I am not a total newb when it comes to cars (i can take care of them) but it threw me off that I got a check engine light, was told it was one thing and then a bunch of stuff that it never said was messed up happened.

Autozone is fail. :thumbdown
 

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So your blaming AZ because 4 months after the fact you were out of oil and coolant. I don't understand peoples mentality that it is alwasy somebodys elses fault when something happens to there car. If YOU would have checked the oil and coolant on a regular basis like a responsible car owner/operator should then YOU would have never ran out of oil or coolant. You went to autozone becasue it was free and you were trying to be cheap and save a few bucks....You get what you pay for more often than not
 

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So your blaming AZ because 4 months after the fact you were out of oil and coolant. I don't understand peoples mentality that it is alwasy somebodys elses fault when something happens to there car. If YOU would have checked the oil and coolant on a regular basis like a responsible car owner/operator should then YOU would have never ran out of oil or coolant. You went to autozone becasue it was free and you were trying to be cheap and save a few bucks....You get what you pay for more often than not
:rofl: well said LOL
 

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I have an 02 V6 and while it is a little more oil hungry then any of my previous cars it certainly would not go dry after just 4 months. I refill about 1/4 of a quart every 2,000mi. Sounds like you had some bigger issues going on but checking the oil level every so often is a must.
 

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So your blaming AZ because 4 months after the fact you were out of oil and coolant. I don't understand peoples mentality that it is alwasy somebodys elses fault when something happens to there car. If YOU would have checked the oil and coolant on a regular basis like a responsible car owner/operator should then YOU would have never ran out of oil or coolant. You went to autozone becasue it was free and you were trying to be cheap and save a few bucks....You get what you pay for more often than not
See if my passat would've said "Oh, I need oil. I will turn on the oil light." and then if it needs coolant it would say "Oh I need coolant. I will turn on the coolant light." Then those things would've been fixed. But no, it said "check the engine." so I took it to autozone because they claim they can diagnos it.

Yes, I was trying to save a few bucks. I think it is ridiculous that mechanics charge $70 to look at your car and say "It needs oil."

I change my car's oil every 3000 miles. They changed it at the dealership when it bought it and 3000 miles later (like I said in the post) I had scheduled it get it changed.

Like I said, I am not a car savvy person. If the oil needs changed, if belts need changed, if filters need changed, I take it to the dealership and pay them to do it. I don't like that I have to pay to be told whats wrong; I don't mind paying to get it fixed.

You missed the point behind my post. I was asking if Passats are generally unreliable with their warnings. There is a check oil light and check coolant light for a reason... yet neither of them turned on.

My second question is if other people have found AutoZone unreliable. If they would've said "Hey retard... change your oil." then I would've done it. Instead they said change the spark plugs, so I did. I was given bad information.
 

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Capps,

You are the proud owner of a passat, you should try and check the oil and fluids yourself at the minimum.(im not saying do a timing belt, but fluids is pretty staright forward)

As far as autozone goes....well its hit or miss. You did however set out to diagnose what the check engine light was on for. Which I believe they did and gave you a list of the codes. I dont see any misinformation there.

You never asked them to check your oil, hence they didnt.....they gave you a diagnosis for the one problem you asked about. The check engine light.

Hypothetically speaking, if your power steering pump fails now because of no fluid, and the AZ guy didnt check the fluid when he was diagnosing the check engine light, is it his fault????

I think in this case its not AZ fault.........Sorry for the bad luck but I find with a passat "routine" is key....oil should especially be watched....

and try not to solely rely on the "DUMMY"lights.....they are there to help but aren't always spot on.:thumbup:......Again Good luck with your passat
 

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capps, when you bought your car, did it ever occur to you to look for us (Passatworld) then, rather than wait until you had something to complain about?

this is the ultimate self-help forum aimed at those of us who a) love VWs, especially Passats, and b) want to learn to do any and everything for ourselves to the extent possible. like any other auto parts store, Autozone is there for exactly that reason. they can't help you with anything you can't or don't tell them. they are not SPECIALIST mechanics on each and every different type of car with an owner that wanders into the store from the street.

you are blaming the wrong element here. I suggest you start by looking into the mirror, take a deep breath, and repeat after me: "I can learn more about my car, and I will. I'll stop by the B5 Garage forum regularly and read the "I've got a problem" posts and resulting solutions. I will learn how to check my own damned oil - hell, all I have to do is pull the dipstick and look at it. I can learn to look at my coolant reservoir to tell when the coolant level is low, and use G-12 coolant (never a substitute!). I can do these things for myself, and my Passat will reward me with many miles of relaxed tooling around."

stop blaming others and take responsibility... I got your reports about being abused in this thread - I am the moderator of this forum.

if you take the time to show us you want to learn, we'll help you. if you want to use this as a place to vent, well, you can do that too - just don't come crying to a moderator when people tell you what they think.
 

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stop blaming others and take responsibility... I got your reports about being abused in this thread - I am the moderator of this forum.

if you take the time to show us you want to learn, we'll help you. if you want to use this as a place to vent, well, you can do that too - just don't come crying to a moderator when people tell you what they think.
I see no need to throw this guy under the bus and mention he reported abuses to you, lame as hell for a moderator, man. Did he report them in public like you did? NO. So handle it accordingly. That shit needs to be addressed PM, and I'm no mod.

Other than that I agree that the two things are unrelated, and you have a responibility to either stay on top of things yourself, or pay someone to do them for you. I've never run a car out of oil, but imagine you might have a few other issues related to that. You were probably given good, yet incomplete information. There is no way for the guy at AZ to know your oil or coolant level, or anything about your battery, without popping the hood, which they probably didn't do when they scanned it.
 
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Yeah I would say easy up on the guy and lets teach him to use Autozone for the codes...then post the codes here for us to comment and help him in the future. Crap happens and he has learned his lesson...Didn't anyone read Sharkys post!
 

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See if my passat would've said "Oh, I need oil. I will turn on the oil light." and then if it needs coolant it would say "Oh I need coolant. I will turn on the coolant light." Then those things would've been fixed. But no, it said "check the engine." so I took it to autozone because they claim they can diagnos it.

You missed the point behind my post. I was asking if Passats are generally unreliable with their warnings. There is a check oil light and check coolant light for a reason... yet neither of them turned on.
The Passat does not have a "check oil" light! The oil light comes on when the pressure is too low, this may or may not be related to the oil level. A simple review of the owners manual would have revealed this information. The Passat is not "unreliable with it's warning", simply because it is not designed to warn you of everything. Again, if you read the owners manual, it advises you to make visual inspections periodically, and it tells you how to check the fluid levels.

If you're wondering why the lights still didn't come on, then I suspect it could be an electrical issue. You would have to take it to an actual mechanic or the dealer. That said, you should never wait until any sort of warning light comes on to take action. It takes all of 5 minutes to pop open the hood and check the fluid levels.

Autozone is NOT the same thing as a repair shop. They are merely a store that sells a very broad variety of parts. They do NOT diagnose what's wrong with the car. They can pull the codes, but that is not the same as an actual diagnosis. No car can do a "self diagnosis".

I don't mean to be a dick, but I think you did this to yourself. You are not going to find a lot of sympathy here. It would be the same on any other forum, for any other make or model of car. I am not a mechanic, nor am I nearly as mechanically inclined as most people here, but I spent a lot of time reading very very basic books on car care, and then read this site obsessively, along with the car's manual and have learned a lot that way. As a result I am able to do most of my own basic maintenance, and have avoided major problems. A little bit of study goes a long way.
 

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I'll try not to pile on, since hopefully you've gotten the hint.

Yes, you can be a non-technically inclined VW owner. But you'd better be prepared to spend some money to have knowledgeable people take care of your car.

First of all, I don't care WHAT you own, if you don't check the fluids on a regular basis, between services, you are not being a responsible owner. I've heard anywhere from every time you fill it up, pop the hood, to once a month, etc. It all boils down to your car. If it goes through oil, better check it pretty regularly. You don't need to be a mechanic to learn where all of the fluid checkpoints are in your car. Its a RTFM learning experience. If you're too lazy to do that, and don't mind a good natured ribbing, post up in the Noob area and ask people to teach you.

You own a 6 year old car. If you think shit isn't going to break on anything after 6 years, you're kidding yourself. Never, ever assume/rely on the car to pop a warning light, no matter how old it is. Especially when its new to you.

If you're not going to take the time to learn how to do basic preventive maintenance and care, then I suggest you learn to like paying someone $75 to say "yep, needs oil." It beats the hell out of "Yep, shits broke. $1,500."

If you really want to be an oblivious car owner, buy an Accord or Camry. They take the benign neglect a hell of a lot better.

That being said, if you want to become a better car owner, stick to PW, you can learn more than you thought possible.

And P.S. Unless the AZ guy happens to own a Dub, chances are he won't know any more about your car than you will. 2 weeks of reading this site and you'll be a qualified expert compared to those guys. They're not mechanics, they're retail salespeople! (not that they're all bad, just that they have less knowledge than you do sometimes)
 

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Geez, I'm making myself feel ancient, in that my mind boggles at the concept of depending on warning lights as the primary way of knowing your car needs attention. The MGs and Triumphs I grew up with basically needed a walkaround, like a light plane, before you got in 'em - including the check of several fluids.

Didn't pull the dipstick for FOUR MONTHS? Self inflicted injury.
 

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It is possible that the dealer did not put enough oil in the car. Get distracted during the process and they may have put only a liter or two.
 

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from an autozone employee:

sir, please be respectful enough in this situation to stfu when you do not know how to maintain your OWN car.

your lack of responsibility is quite appaling, only doubled by how quick you are to blame the entier failure of your engine, and possibly the destruction of your engine, on the poor lackey that pulled your codes.

do NOT blame people at parts stores for what they DID NOT tell you was wrong with your car.

it is a FREE service we provide to you. we don't have to be accurate.
hell, we could just as well tell you code p0300 means your flux capacitor doesn't work.

if you don't like how we read your codes and point out your flaws, DO IT YOURSELF!

furthermore, autozone does NOT sell parts primarily for most volkswagen cars post 1998.
it's true they fail in that regard, but don't be so quick to pull the blame trigger.


here's what we CAN tell you.
-that looks wierd.
-your battery has low voltage
-your alternator isn't working as it should
-you have whatever odd number p0 emissions code.


what we CAN NOT DO:
-check your oil
-add fluids to your car other than windshield washer juice
-pop in light bulbs
-sell you parts that may be for your car.


all other responsibility relies on the customer.
 

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I see no need to throw this guy under the bus and mention he reported abuses to you, lame as hell for a moderator, man. Did he report them in public like you did? NO. So handle it accordingly. That shit needs to be addressed PM, and I'm no mod.
I didn't throw him under the bus. he threw himself under it by "reporting abuses" when there were none, in my humble opinion. he's blamed Autozone for his own lack of knowledge in a public forum, and then whined to the mods - all of US who are - that people were giving him a hard time when he was blaming an entire company (ok, maybe only his local store, but nevertheless, he said Autozone) for his aforementioned lack of knowledge, and they called him on it. both you, aran, and the OP need a thicker skin.

if you had a problem with it, aran, perhaps you could have taken the same tack you suggested - PM me. instead, you have essentially done the same thing and perpetuated what you see is a lack of tact.
this one's locked. there nothing more productive to be gained here.
 
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