How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy?

Re: How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy? (Huffster)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I'd be interested too.

My only concern is that I ordered one of the last front ones (in the last group buy) at the end of July and still do not have it. Over three weeks seems a little long for shipping. I've emailed them twice and have received no responses, but got really quick responses when I was asking about buying one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shit, tell me about it. They wanted to put a PES kit in my ride or something. They were suppose to sponsor me. It would be like 6 weeks between e-mails. I was willing to drop cash on the table and do what ever I just had one question, what am I getting for the $3000+ I was willing to pony up. No response so I just got a chip. The cash will stay in the bank.

<![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I'd be interested too.

My only concern is that I ordered one of the last front ones (in the last group buy) at the end of July and still do not have it. Over three weeks seems a little long for shipping. I've emailed them twice and have received no responses, but got really quick responses when I was asking about buying one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Shit, tell me about it. They wanted to put a PES kit in my ride or something. They were suppose to sponsor me. It would be like 6 weeks between e-mails. I was willing to drop cash on the table and do what ever I just had one question, what am I getting for the $3000+ I was willing to pony up. No response so I just got a chip. The cash will stay in the bank.

[Modified by NUISANCE, 1:28 AM 8/23/2002]

Re: How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy? (P&P Motorsports)

Just as an update from my previous post...P+P saw my post, emailed me and we've got this all worked out. Simple misunderstanding, so no big deal. Since I'll have the front, might as well grab a rear.

Re: How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy? (gjd6640)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Anyone have a picture of these installed? I notice that they're shaped differently than the ones pictured at Neuspeed. What is the difference? Is there an article or ad somewhere that has this info. P&P's website is lacking to say the least.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's my review/comparison. The P&P bar stiffens the rear beam a LOT and therefore reduces understeer greatly making steering much more neutral. I'm VERY satisfied with my purchase. The Neuspeed installs another bar separate from the rear beam. You'll pay twice as much for the Neuspeed, and some believe it's worth it (my lower back might say that pretty soon too). The difference that you can feel as a driver is when you're going over bumps, espeically offset speed bumps (ones that don't hit both wheels at the same time, but are at an angle). Since the rear beam is so much stiffer, it'll often cause the car to jerk side to side. This is greatly reduced with upgraded shocks, but is still noticeable. From what others report, this phenomenon doesn't occur with the Neuspeed bar, but then again, you pay a ridiculous amount of money for that bar. If you don't encounter many speed bumps (unfortunately, my driveway has 4), you won't notice a difference. This was probably the best mod I've done to my car yet, and probably will be the best (barring some race rubber, which I'll probably not even do on this car). Those who say a chip is the best mod they've done are overlooking the overall handling of the car. 200 hp from a chip is nice, but if you can't feel comfortable w/ the steering characteristics, who cares about the extra straightline power? And for 1/4 the price of a chip, it's definitely the best value.

Re: How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy? (P&P Motorsports)

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>NUISANCE we are not through yet. We are looking at the PES and the APR kit both and want to get the full story first before we commit with one or the other. We are also waiting to get approved as a reseller of APR products and that takes a few weeks to do a background check. We want to be sure that we have all our ducks in a row before we finalize this and we all know what is expected. We just finished our Audi TT with EVO stage 3 upgrade and are in the middle of our S4 with sponsorship products from AMS, ABT, Forge and now will be adding a complete RS4 conversion hopefully by EuroTunerfest. We are not blowing any one off but we must be certain that we get this done right.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the last e-mail it said, "I would like to know if you are still interested in our program?" I responded yes. That was on July 26, a month ago. You didn't tell me it might be a while. I got the impression you wanted to get the ball rolling now not a month from now. I am still down just give me a heads up when you can.

<![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>NUISANCE we are not through yet. We are looking at the PES and the APR kit both and want to get the full story first before we commit with one or the other. We are also waiting to get approved as a reseller of APR products and that takes a few weeks to do a background check. We want to be sure that we have all our ducks in a row before we finalize this and we all know what is expected. We just finished our Audi TT with EVO stage 3 upgrade and are in the middle of our S4 with sponsorship products from AMS, ABT, Forge and now will be adding a complete RS4 conversion hopefully by EuroTunerfest. We are not blowing any one off but we must be certain that we get this done right.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the last e-mail it said, "I would like to know if you are still interested in our program?" I responded yes. That was on July 26, a month ago. You didn't tell me it might be a while. I got the impression you wanted to get the ball rolling now not a month from now. I am still down just give me a heads up when you can.

[Modified by NUISANCE, 1:46 AM 8/27/2002]

Re: How about another P&P Motorsports rear sway bar group buy? (P&P Motorsports)

Let us know & thanks.

<![CDATA[Let us know & thanks.

[Modified by Ricardo, 10:30 PM 8/28/2002]