[VWPassat8]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/

I was expecting not to like it, but I actually reluctantly do.

 

[traubenberg]

1) $39k for a Civic.

2) See #1.

 

[Passatboy101]

I kinda like it too, but a bit pricy

 

[Salty D]

seems very EvO 8ish looking..

 

[mfitz]

I was reading the stats, and I can't say I am all that impressed. It has 240 hp, 160 ft lbs of torque and weighs 2733 lbs, at a cost of $39,000.

My 98 B5 weighs 2800 (had it measured on race scales), has about 180-190 hp with a neuspeed chip, but could easily be tuned to close to 300 hp and similar torque with a BT kit, get a well sorted suspension, and lose at least 150 lbs by using lightweight wheels and seats, and carbon fiber hood/trunk, all for much less than $39,000, even if you include the 21K the car cost in the first place. It would kick that civic's ass sideways from here to japan and back...

...on paper anyway.......

If I really wanted a fast civic, for much less you could buy a new si and get a jackson tuning supercharger.The MugenRR thing seems way overpriced for what it is.

 

[senseless1707]

1) $39k for a Civic.

2) See #1.

x2 :thumbdown

 

[VWPassat8]

Well 22lb weight reduction, 15 more hp, wheels and tires, suspension, painted body kit, alll 4 upgraded brakes, recaro seats, hood, and unique paint all from the factory isn't too bad. I wouldn't buy it, but I could definitely see Honda guys jumping on it.

 

[ronaldmcdonald]

I was reading the stats, and I can't say I am all that impressed. It has 240 hp, 160 ft lbs of torque and weighs 2733 lbs, at a cost of $39,000.

My 98 B5 weighs 2800 (had it measured on race scales), has about 180-190 hp with a neuspeed chip, but could easily be tuned to close to 300 hp and similar torque with a BT kit, get a well sorted suspension, and lose at least 150 lbs by using lightweight wheels and seats, and carbon fiber hood/trunk, all for much less than $39,000, even if you include the 21K the car cost in the first place. It would kick that civic's ass sideways from here to japan and back...

...on paper anyway.......

If I really wanted a fast civic, for much less you could buy a new si and get a jackson tuning supercharger.The MugenRR thing seems way overpriced for what it is.

you cannot fairly compare a stock car to a modified one, but just for the sake of arguement, civics have traditionally had the strongest aftermarket and have been proven to be effective conteders in autoX and road-race. I like the B5 passat too. I used to own one, had it modded with an apr st.3, ran race tires, etc. it was fun, but now I occasionally track a modded honda ls-vtec eg hatchback. its a lot quicker car than the B5, and theres a lot more things you can play with.

 

[ronaldmcdonald]

I kinda like it too, but a bit pricy

it not always an accurate to determine the price of what a vehicle would cost in NA, based on exchange rates alone. you're not taking into consideration the countries' taxation rates and miscellaneous fees.

for instance, if you look at comparable cars that are avail in the US and the UK, most UK mags will list a same car being double of what its sold for in the US, if you were using exhange rates alone to determine pricing.

If the RR was infact sold in the US, i highly doubt the MSRP would be 39k. maybe 30k at the most. then again, the fact that only 300 sold may mean the markup may make it way beyond 39k.

 

[sp33dy]

fake lookin evo 9

 

[ycharlies]

what ever happened to the civic dominator project? that one was much cooler.

 

[stealthx32]

http://www.mugen-power.com/street/RR/movie/index.html

1:06.68 in bone stock form at Tsukuba. Go ahead, tell me it's slow, or not a bargain.

From assorted Best Motoring videos

Nismo Skyline GT-R Z Tune 1 min 01.150 secs
Ferrari 360 Challenge Stra' 1 min 02.440 secs
Lamborghini Gallardo 1 min 03.605 secs
Honda NSX-R 1 min 03.920 secs
McLaren F1 1 min 04.620 secs
Porsche 997 Turbo 1 min 04.730 secs
Murcielago 1 min 04.760 secs
Z-Tune 1 min 05.100 secs*(diff day diff driver)
EVO IX RS 1 min 05.528 secs
997 Carrera 4 1 min 05.980 secs
Corvette Z06 1 min 06.020 secs
Lancer Evo IX 1 min 06.060 secs
NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.198 secs
Nismo GT-R S Tune 1 min 06.232 secs (340 bhp)
Ferrari F40 1 min 06.460 secs
WRX STI SPEC-C 1 min 06.651 secs ( Current STI)
NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.80 secs (same race as F40)
BMW M5 1 min 06.560 secs
STI S204 1 min 06.800 secs
BMW M6 1 min 07.434 secs
350Z S Version 1 min 08.110 secs
BMW M3 1 min 08.200 secs
Audi RS4 1 min 08.368 secs
Supra Euro Version 330 bhp 1 min 08.460 secs
Mazda RX-7 1 min 08.70 secs
RX-8 A Spec 1 min 09.430 secs
Nissan 300ZX 1 min 10.70 secs

 

[Almighty AEB]

If the older Civic Type-R can do This to a Evo I wonder what the newer more powerful can do...

 

[ronaldmcdonald]

If the older Civic Type-R can do This to a Evo I wonder what the newer more powerful can do...

that doesn't mean anything. its a random street race posted on the internet. you don't know a lot of factors like the mods, driver skill, whether or not it was staged, etc. you might as well be showing a jetta w/ the 2.slow dusting a ferrarri

that aside, the b and k series honda engines are easy to tune for n/a or forced induction power. hondas can be fast straight line cars, if you intend to build them up that way, but so are evos.

 

[Almighty AEB]

There is ALOT more then 1 race. All with different civic's. That is simply just the one I like the most. But there all the same result's. :thumbup:

And Honda waste's all there money into perfecting the suspension on the Type-R. Thats why the older NSX-R can waste the older Viper off the line with only 280 HP and thats also why the older NSX-R can keep up with an F40 on the track. And beat many other nice exotic car's.

I have an awesome Type-R documentry at home somewhere. I am very impressed with what they do.

 

[SirRangeALot]

1) $39k for a Civic.

2) See #1.

x3.