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After getting the call about the oil cooler/pressure switch yesterday, they called back today to say they'd finished that job($1100) to find that the oil pump and turbo need to be replaced due to the low oil from the initial leak, and it needs a water pump, too. That bumped the bill up to $4700.
We are both a little woozy from that news, and I haven't authorized the work yet.
She is ready to get rid of it and buy a new car (non-VW), however our funds don't support that decision. Had we known, we would have declined to have the cooler fixed, donated it to Fort A.P. Hill for artillery practice, and used the 5-grand for a down payment on something else. :banghead:
 

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This has got to be related to sludge. I would escalate it with VW.
 

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I feel your pain brother, my turbo is shot, hopefully the car will be fixed by this coming weekend. I would have had a lot bigger downpayment on a new car had this POS not puked on me.

Not too mention, it puked the day after I put money down to hold a car until I could get to the bank on Monday. So Saturday I make plans to buy a new car, on a Sunday the turbo blows, on Monday I call the dealership to tell them nevermind. I was so angry at my B5 I had left it front of my house with the keys in the ignition for a week. Unfortunately, no one wanted it. :rolleyes:

Both myself and the mechanic are thinking the oil sludge is to blame for the turbo. Who knows, in a month or so the B5 will be a lesson learned and a mediocre memory.
 

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After getting the call about the oil cooler/pressure switch yesterday, they called back today to say they'd finished that job($1100) to find that the oil pump and turbo need to be replaced due to the low oil from the initial leak, and it needs a water pump, too. That bumped the bill up to $4700.
We are both a little woozy from that news, and I haven't authorized the work yet.
She is ready to get rid of it and buy a new car (non-VW), however our funds don't support that decision. Had we known, we would have declined to have the cooler fixed, donated it to Fort A.P. Hill for artillery practice, and used the 5-grand for a down payment on something else. :banghead:
hold on. was the car driving fine besides the oil cooler leak/pressure switch problem?
if the turbo is still "working" i.e. making boost, it doesnt need to be replaced. :crazy:
 

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Exactly, Rotty. Hindsight is 20/20 in the most painful way. She's been tossing the idea around of getting a new car for a few months. I said, "It's paid for, put a little money in tires/suspension, it'll ride like new and you can keep it for 4-5 more years...". Now this.

ModA4: No noticeable engine issues while driving until the oil light flashed on her Friday a.m. leaving the house. She turned around and came home, still in the neighborhood, I can't blame her for that. Dealer said the turbo and oil pump went because she operated it with low oil. Well, it had enough in it to leave a big puddle in the driveway after she got home, though it didn't register on the dipstick.

He also said that $4700 doesn't cover the rocker arms and CV joints(or boots?) that it also needs. I was so pissed when he started on that secondary list, I couldn't even hear him anymore.

I just discovered this site, so am in the process of digesting all of the information/issues that most of you already know about the car we used to love, and It ain't goin' down easy.

Oh, and we haven't done the TB yet, 96,000 miles, and they told me on the phone yesterday when we discussed the oil cooler, "you don't have to worry about that now".

I reitterate: :banghead:
 

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Sounds like they are trying to bend you over and stick it to you. Did you have Ken Davidson check it? He's the best guy at WB I know who is still working there. A boost gage is the only way to tell if the turbo is really working. How far was she when the light came on and how long did it take her to get back? Why in your other post you stated they hadn't found anything else wrong and now this? It doesn't add up.

PS, the oil grade or type shouldn't make the oil cooler explode unless it was never changed.
 

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I don't think you ever said... but from the sound of these prices, you are going to the dealer... erm I mean stealer? That's part of your problem. You need a good indy mechanic to do this work. You'll save 50% or more.
 

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I feel your pain. My transmission just went out on me, 1st and 2nd gear are shot. I found a tranny from a 2003 1.8t passat with 8500 miles for 350 bucks, but shippings going to bump it up another 265 bucks.
 

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luvmyB5: By the time I saw your PM, someone else had contacted us with the quote. When I spoke w/ him yesterday, he said they didn't see any damage other than the oil cooler. Today we were advised that after they did that repair, they found the turbo and oil pump had been damaged by running it w/ low oil level. The light came on about 1/4 mile from the house and she drove it back home.
 

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I would fill it with oil and see how it sounds before authorizing a repair. It is possible the turbo was damaged by low oil,but you might get lucky.
 

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I would fill it with oil and see how it sounds before authorizing a repair. It is possible the turbo was damaged by low oil,but you might get lucky.
Agreed. If the car doesn't make new noises and doesn't feel like someone swapped the motor for a 5 hp Briggs & Stratton, see how it goes. Hold on to the rest of your money while you fight the warranty fight. I ran mine for a lot longer than 1/4 mi with oil light on (due to dirty oil & low oil), and after having the sludged-up oil pump replaced and doing a few extra oil changes (penance for missing some), it went for over a year before the damage I did became evident in the form of a little exhaust smoke at startup and a small amount of oil dripping off the turbo hoses. I finally bellied up and had the turbo replaced, but I could have waited a lot longer I think - I was not having to add oil (yet) and the motor (i.e., turbo) was still strong.
 

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No way an oil pump and new turbo should cost you $3600. Not even at dealership prices. The turbo itself is only about $1000 at dealer prices and the install should be about $350. I've not had to replace the oil pump but can't imagine that its an additional $2100.

I would have the car towed from the dealership to a good indy mechanic and let them take a look at it. The cost of the tow will be offset by how much you'll save at the indy garage for sure.

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I was given a price of $1600 (parts) plus ~$400 (labor) from an indie VW specialist shop for a K03 turbo replacement. I was then given the same price by a local foreign car parts dealer who then proceeded to tell me he could sell it to me for $863 (brand new, not a reman or knockoff). I then watched ebay and saw quite a few used K03's (used = SCARY!!!!) going for ~$300, and then latched onto a new one for $500 (supposedly new = only a little scary). I bought it, it actually looked to be new for real, gave it to the indie shop, they put it in for a little under $400, including labor for an oil cooler replacement. SCORE!!!! ;) Seems OK so far..... :whistle:
 

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......and I had my oil pump done about 2 years ago, I can dig up that price for you if you are still interested in price comparisons.......
 

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......and I had my oil pump done about 2 years ago, I can dig up that price for you if you are still interested in price comparisons.......
Others have reported ~$700 for oil pump replacement, which entails a pan drop.
 

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Others have reported ~$700 for oil pump replacement, which entails a pan drop.
I am having my Oil Pump replace RIGHT NOW.
I will end up paying in the range of about $900.

This is for a new oil pump ($225 - I know that is a bit high) with a 12 month warranty as well as new hoses etc. I will also be getting the engine cleaned (semi-desludged) and the turbo's oil lines cleaned or replaced at cost. They are also tightening a few other "loose nuts/bolts" to take care of a oil leak or two.
 

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My oil pump change, timing belt, H2O pump, timing chain, etc. total cost me about $2100 and the dealer knocked off $400 for a total of $1700 with the timing belt kit from ecstuning.
 
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