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My 2003 GLS sedan with manual transmission and about 32,600 miles will not start. Worked fine this morning.

Symptoms: I turned the key, the first time, the starter cranked, the engine caught, I put it in neutral, started to take my foot off the clutch and it died. After that the starter cranks but the engine will not turn over.

I have a Wett chip, K&N air filter, N75J.

Last weekend I installed a Dieselgeek short shifter and just this past Saturday (2 days ago) I installed a boost gauge.

Please help. I spend too much time at work as it is and now I'm stuck here.

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When the starter cranks, does your boost guage move?

Also, verify that your belts rotate when you try to start the engine. I used a marker to mark mine, just to make sure it was moving.
 

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Do you have an alarm ? maybe the 555u is not working correctly and it lost the program for your keys locking out the others. Check to see if your coil packs are secure, as sometimes they might move, esp since some of them do not come with screws anymore to hold them down. Any check engine lights?
 

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Johnny said:
When the starter cranks, does your boost guage move?

Also, verify that your belts rotate when you try to start the engine. I used a marker to mark mine, just to make sure it was moving.

When the starter cranks the gauge moves from 0 to -2. The belts are rotating.


DuttyB5nyc wrote Do you have an alarm ? maybe the 555u is not working correctly and it lost the program for your keys locking out the others. Check to see if your coil packs are secure, as sometimes they might move, esp since some of them do not come with screws anymore to hold them down. Any check engine lights?

The alarm light on the door is not on and I did not set off the alarm. The coil packs are firmly in place. When I turn the key, all the dash lights come on and then go off except for the one that looks like an engine, the one that reads "EPC" and the one that looks like a battery.

Anyone have any ideas?

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quality_sound said:
^^^Why not? Wouldn't the battery power the fuel injectors and spark plugs until it kicks over?
Never tried it, just curious.

Paul :thumbup:
I just went outside and rolled my car down the hill and dumped the clutch to try it out... it wouldn't start. I think it has something to do with the ECM.

Jimmy :)
 

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hmmmm.....It's nice to see you abused your car for my benefit. :lol: j/k I would think if the key was in the ignition and in the "run" position then the ECM wouldn't care. Oh well, no need to keep abusing cars to satisfy my curiosity. :D


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quality_sound said:
hmmmm.....It's nice to see you abused your car for my benefit. :lol: j/k I would think if the key was in the ignition and in the "run" position then the ECM wouldn't care. Oh well, no need to keep abusing cars to satisfy my curiosity. :D


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Ya...
I went out and tried it once... just to satisfy my own curiousity. Key was in the run position, headlights were on, nobody was around, and down the hill I rolled. Dropped her into second gear and let out the clutch. Nothing but a hopity-hop, hop, hop. Then I said f*ck this, and started it up and drove it around the block to show it some loving.

Jimmy :)
 

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ummm, i push start passats at the dealership all the time, jettas, gtis... if they die b/c someone left the lights on we push start them easily... just get enough speed and let the clutch out fast as you give it gas. it works.
 

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Fuel pump fuse? Number 28 IIRC from my fuel filter swap. Tha would cause the above mentioned symptoms. Cranking and starting then dying right away after a couple seconds. Not a common failure though. You still at work?! :nervous:
 

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JimmyDee said:
Push start doesn't work on fuel injected cars...
Damn, that sucks being stuck at work.
Sure it does. I used to roll start my '90 Honda CRX Si all the time.

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Fuel pump fuse? Number 28 IIRC from my fuel filter swap. Tha would cause the above mentioned symptoms. Cranking and starting then dying right away after a couple seconds. Not a common failure though. You still at work?! :nervous:

stealth and dante...

I was guessing it might be a fuel issue. My wife was kind enough to pick me up when she got off work. (She has an '03 variant so I still got to ride in a Passat).

I will check the fuse when she takes me to work. Anyone know what size fuse I need? I'd like to pick one up on the way to work.

Note to self: Buy several fuses of different sizes and keep them in the car in case of emergency.
 

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Note to self: Buy several fuses of different sizes and keep them in the car in case of emergency.
How long have you been a VW owner? ;)

Fuel pump fuse or dead battery. If the starter cranks strongly, it's not he battery. Definitely sounds like a fueling issue.
 

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Actually, if this problem turns out to not be caused by my modifications, it will be the first problem I've had with my Passat. If it turns out to just be a fuse and not something more serious, I hardly think its VW's fault.

Now that I've written that I am certain to experience multiple, sequential, catastrophic malfuntcions for the remainder of the car's life :)
 

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dgabler said:
I dont have a stick but have you tried a push start? (ahh the memories) hopeefully you can get home soon!
Push start doesn't work on fuel injected cars...
Damn, that sucks being stuck at work.

Jimmy :)

Sure it does. I killed the battery two years ago and roll started down the hill with the key turned to the on position and then just popped the clutch in first gear.


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Is it possible that this is just "car wash syndrome"? I don't know why the car stalled originally; if it was just a normal stall due to being too quick on the clutch release, then the car could have flooded. Many threads talk about starting the car, moving it 10 feet out of the garage to wash it, then not being about to restart it after the wash because it is flooded. Could your problem be that simple? Just a thought...
 

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jaero,

Hadn't thought of that. I did try to start it about 1 hour after the original problem with no success. I haven't had time today to got the parking garage and try to start it or check/replace the fuel pump fuse. Probably won't have time until after 5pm.
 
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