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Brake Quiet over intergrated shim?

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PBR Ultimate Ceramic pads and ATE slotted rotors (front) has arrived at my home. From what I read, PBR Ultimates have integrated shims / adhesive backing.

My search on this and other forum indicate that Ultimates likely to give annoy squeal (esp. at cold temperate). The suggestion I receive is to spread a lay of Brake Quiet on pad back.

So I was at AutoZone this morning, but the CRC Brake Quiet label reads " For use on the back of non-shimmed disc pads." (ref: http://www.crcindustries.com/auto/content/prod_detail.aspx?PN=05016&S=N)

so can I still use it with PBR Ulitmates?

Should I use it?
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Yes, it will help keep them quiet. Worked on mine for over a year and on another set I installed on a BBK.
Yes, it will help keep them quiet. Worked on mine for over a year and on another set I installed on a BBK.
Got it done, :salute: - no bark from the car & no attention grabbing squeal - I pray for the quietness last longer than yours.



the hardest part was to put the first tension spring back ;)
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You put that on a bit thick. Make sure it did not run over the edges onto the slide area of the caliper carrier. If it reaches the carrier, the brakes will drag.
You put that on a bit thick. Make sure it did not run over the edges onto the slide area of the caliper carrier. If it reaches the carrier, the brakes will drag.
I will double check next time when I get a chance. I am probably fine as I apply the paste per instruction (which reads "apply liberally" ) and then left it to cure overnight.

On the other hand, my initial assessment of the quietness was premature. The first day was raining cats and dogs so I did not hear anything.

On subsequent dry days, when brake is applied lightly and at low speed, the dreadful squeal emits for a few seconds! it is not a performance issue but just politically incorrect: imagining when the wife drops off kids at school in the morning, some moms points out to her that she needs new brakes; or imagining I am turning so slow at a downtown corner, yet still some old lady pedestrian turns her head as if checking out some fast and furious teen driver behind.

Any suggestions?

I did not apply any grease anywhere in this installation. (other than anti-seize on caliper & on contact surface between rotor and wheel hub.)

I am now thinking of apply some brake grease to pairs of caliper glide pins. when I install the pad this time, I only clean the pins but did not apply anything. I was not sure whether I should apply high temperature brake grease, or plumber's water resistant silicon grease, or nothing at all (so not to attract dirt). Should I?

what about caliper itself? it is kind of rusty.
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Somewhere there is a link on using a nail punch to make a tiny indentation on the outside of the pad where it touches the caliper on the top and bottom, because a lot of after market pads are ever so slightly smaller than stock, causing them to vibrate and squeal. It worked for me perfectly on my PBR metal masters.
Found it, scroll down in the link to the link and download the document.


http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178256
Mine were quiet for a year but the dust was just too much for me. Once they started to squeal, I swapped them out for EBC Reds.
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