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Was perusing around the internet last night and found an older Big Brake Upgrade post from 2009 from some member back then, be darned if I can find that post now.
But anyways, The OP of that post did basically the same thing I'm wanting to do, and claims the Touareg calipers fit inside a stock 17" wheel. I think a 5mm spacer was used to clear the spokes of the wheel and caliper.
When I find that post again I'll put a link to it here.
 

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Took some time tonight to get most of the parts out of the boxes they came in and roughly lined up the caliper to the W8/A8 steering knuckles (uprights). The mounting pattern (distance from both mounting holes) on the caliper is exactly the same as the steering knuckle. Might have to ream out a mm or two in the upright and viola, the caliper will be mounted to the upright. At this point in time I'm trying to find the part number for the Mercedes Benz 330mm x 32mm rotor. Whatever year/model rotor it is, it's a direct fit for the specific upgrade I'm doing.
 

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Otra Vez!
It happened again today! 60mph power slide because some douche bag ALMOST ran me off the road. Thank goodness my ABS module is out for repair otherwise I seriously doubt I'd be writing this now.
Dead even with some person (them in the #2 lane I'm in #3 lane ) she just starts moving into my lane like I didn't exist. I had stand on the brakes because I literally ran out of road on my right side. Car went into a slide at about a 30 degree angle in my lane with the front pointing towards the #2 lane. I seriously don't know how I got out of that without trading paint colors.
 

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Glad you’re OK. Why do you think it would’ve been worse with ABS engaged?
The second time I had to stand on the brakes the car slowed down considerably but my car pulls very hard to the right during heavy braking, so in between sliding and not sliding, if ABS would have been hooked up I would have for sure been sandwiched between this person and the concrete wall on my right.
There is something definitely wrong with the left front caliper that keeps it from applying the same amount of braking force as the right side.
I've had that problem before. The caliper is binding somehow. When I finally get to repairing all the stuff on the list this will be included. A complete overhaul of the whole braking system. New master cylinder, complete system flush with alcohol and whatever else it may need.
 

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Wanted to do a rear brake upgrade for the looks after I installed the A6 321mm rotors and calipers. I often heard that Passats chew up rear rotors and pads. I assumed that my rear pads and rotors were worn out so I bought a set. To my surprise they were actually in pretty good shape. I guess since my front brakes as so much more efficient my rear brakes don't have to work as hard.
 

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I think the easiest factory upgrade is to find a b6 or b7 S4 w 345mm brakes and rotors. You'll need to grab the uprights and the lower control arms as well. When I did my A6 upgrade I bought a front end kit for an A6 with aluminum uprights...
 

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Wanted to do a rear brake upgrade for the looks after I installed the A6 321mm rotors and calipers. I often heard that Passats chew up rear rotors and pads. I assumed that my rear pads and rotors were worn out so I bought a set. To my surprise they were actually in pretty good shape. I guess since my front brakes as so much more efficient my rear brakes don't have to work as hard.
Actually, quite the opposite on the B5/5.5. I replace fronts 2x on average to every rear brake replacement. My first set of rear pads made it to 70k. Same thing when my wife had her B6 A4.
 

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It varies depending on the model. My rear pads have over 100K and are still in great shape, well over 50% remaining; PBR deluxe and no visible wear on the rotor. I would have to check the mileage on the fronts, but they are also holding up well, but the rotors do have some lip. I tend to coast and downshift to slow rather than use the brakes, so that helps. I also tend to take corners a bit faster than average, saves the brakes, eats the tires.
 

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I regret I don’t have much to offer in terms of brake upgrade topic but I may contribute to the topic of idiot drivers. I think the dumbest drivers are across the south east, particularly in Atlanta area, where I am now.
I have seen people coming to a complete stop at the merge ramp onto I-75 with the terrified and panicked facial expression, people smash their brakes on a mild curve or slope, which I believe they are concerned that their 2018 mustang may roll over. The most annoying drivers are those who are on the phone doing 55-60 mph in the 70mph highway passing lane. (Although it’s illegal to hold the phone driving)
I figured it out tho. I realized that every damn soul has to drive in the United States in order to survive ; the too young, the too old, those inept dumbasses who are not supposed to sit at the wheels etc. there is no advanced public transportation. Plus everyone gets drivers license in 15 min. In Europe, the left lane occupiers are rare occurrence and if it happens, they are collectively punished by other drivers. I love watching on YouTube the 250-300 kmph pulls on the German autobahns, (where there is no speed limit) and the passing lane is always empty. There is no way you can do a 70-75 mph constant driving here. Even on a 6 lane highway. Everyone picks a lane and adopts it, driving however they want until their exit.
Is there a state in America where the drivers are relatively better? I swear sometimes I feel I could move there if such place existed.
 

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Germany is no car paradise either, but the big difference is that driving school is actually thorough and challenging. You will probably fail the first time, because it’s not about your experience, it’s about knowing rules and rights of way, and you get observed in a 45 min drive through various scenarios.

My son in the US has his learners, and he wasn’t clear about flashing stop lights and the full meaning of “right on red after stop”. The basic of the basics in my book, but hey this is ‘Murka.
 

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Hey Andreas-

The other day I was searching for some unrelated stuff when I stumbled across this thread....it was the first time I had heard about the T-reg/Cayenne 17z/18z mod....and even though I have more than enough projects to address on the Unicorn I can’t seem to stop thinking about this damn brake upgrade! I just wanted to get an update on your impression of the “new” BBK since you’ve had it installed for a while now. Any issues that stick out in your mind? Advice or suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks man!
 

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I did an upgrade on mine a long time ago (2004) with the Audi TT 225 set up, 312mm front. All that need to be changed was the rotors and the carriers and it worked out very well! i did EBC rotors, slotted and dimpled and EBC red stuff and blue racing brake fluid. To this day, that set up works very well! I have been thinking of upgrading once again to the 355mm upfront and place the 312 in the back, but more work is required for that to happen and we will be working on the power upgrade for her as well.
When you upgraded to the 312s in the front did you put the 288s on the back or did you leave them as 245???
 

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The 288s do not fit on the back without custom brackets (at the least). The 312s up front are a nice cheap upgrade, I did mine many years ago. The rears barely warmed up on the one track day I did while I still had the V6 Tip setup, the fronts got warm, but I am not a full throttle/full brake type of driver on the track (or off), so they do not get a lot of heavy use. For heavy brake users, the 312 with Boxter calipers is probably fine for 90% of the drivers but I expect it's easier to source the 17Z/18Z or Q5 (4 piston) setups now.

For the rear on the 4Mo, there is a 300mm upgrade that requires a bracket and S4 rear calipers. The rotor is from the B6/B7 S4. There are also larger kits, but there is no practical reason for them on a B5.
 
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This kind of way after the fact and seeing as I had completely forgotten about this thread...
I never did finish this project.
The rear axle beam is in to bad of shape for me to be able to do anything with it, at least in my current situation.
So like many other big car projects of mine, it's been shelved until I get out of the apartment scene and into a house.
 
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I feel that! My friends are so tired of me taking up their garage space!!! Living in an apt. makes being a car guy so much harder
 

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When you upgraded to the 312s in the front did you put the 288s on the back or did you leave them as 245???
Sorry just saw this. I left the rears as is, just replaced the rotors to EBC, same as front style and brake pads. The car is now with my son (21st birthday present, he was 2 when i bought it new lol) and we are planning to upgrades the front and the rears to a bigger size, to match the power upgrade that will be coming soon as well!
 

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Sorry just saw this. I left the rears as is, just replaced the rotors to EBC, same as front style and brake pads. The car is now with my son (21st birthday present, he was 2 when i bought it new lol) and we are planning to upgrades the front and the rears to a bigger size, to match the power upgrade that will be coming soon as well!
Interested to see what is cooked up for the rears. I don't remember seeing anyone upgrading rears. At least not on a FWD.
 
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