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Anyone know if the 02J manual transmission from the 1.8T Jetta/Golf will swap into a B5.5? I've had one come up for sale near me and I am very keen to do this. I would otherwise go with a 5-speed Passat swap, but I like the appeal of a 6-speed and I have heard the 02J is a little more robust. Any links are also appreciated. I swear I had seen a thread here on this topic once, but I searched and didn't find it. Thanks.
 

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It will not. The Golf/Jetta platform is a transverse configuration, totally different. You need to stick with the Passat/A4 options.
Ok, thanks. I must have been reading about Jetta swaps and got confused. I knew the configuration was different, but was curious if the mounting holes might be shared since it's still a 1.8T.
 

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My Tiptronic must have got jealous; the day after I started this thread my torque converter failed. 😅 At 218,630 miles, I figure that's decent for what I have in it.
 

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If you need any advice on what you need, I can help. The hardest part is pulling out the bushing in the back end of the crank and modifying a V6 pilot bearing. And maybe a bolt or two on the passenger side of the belhousing near the starter. The rest is unbolting and lowering that heavy pig of a trans.
 

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If you need any advice on what you need, I can help. The hardest part is pulling out the bushing in the back end of the crank and modifying a V6 pilot bearing. And maybe a bolt or two on the passenger side of the belhousing near the starter. The rest is unbolting and lowering that heavy pig of a trans.
Be careful with that offer! I'm really hopeful to make this swap happen; to my knowledge my parts list will be along the lines of:

transmission
clutch
single mass flywheel conversion (more of a preference than a need)
master cylinder and associated lines
cabin gearbox (might splurge for aftermarket bushings)
drive axles
transmission mounts and bolts for manual? Not sure if those are different yet
V6 pilot bearing
associated fluids
pedal assembly

What can you tell me about the pilot bearing modification? I've read a bit about it but I am still a bit confused. I imagine things will make a bit more sense when I lay eyes on everything.
 

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Be careful with that offer! I'm really hopeful to make this swap happen; to my knowledge my parts list will be along the lines of:

transmission
clutch
single mass flywheel conversion (more of a preference than a need)
master cylinder and associated lines
cabin gearbox (might splurge for aftermarket bushings)
drive axles
transmission mounts and bolts for manual? Not sure if those are different yet (V6 transmission mount for passenger side).
V6 pilot bearing
associated fluids
pedal assembly

What can you tell me about the pilot bearing modification? I've read a bit about it but I am still a bit confused. I imagine things will make a bit more sense when I lay eyes on everything.
You cut the end off, clean it and lube it back up, then insert it with the cut side facing out. I'll see if I can pull my notes and links together.

Oh, don't forget a manual version of the downpipe.
 

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You cut the end off, clean it and lube it back up, then insert it with the cut side facing out. I'll see if I can pull my notes and links together.

Oh, don't forget a manual version of the downpipe.
No new slave/master cylinder; the old one has everything I need?

Thanks for the info on the transmission mount and pilot bearing. I would love to rifle through your information on the subject to see how it compares to what I've learned so far.

How different is the downpipe from one to the other? I have a 3" to 2.5" aftermarket one followed by a custom 2.5" exhaust and I would be happy if it could be left unchanged.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking brake MC. Yes, you need a clutch master and slave cylinder. Pretty sure you need a new downpipe because of how it is hung from the bracket.

I wrote this up but never got around to starting a thread. It's incomplete, but goes through a good bit and gives an idea of scope.

Thought I’d document a manual swap on the 1.8T for the B5/B5.5 folks. This pertains specifically to the B5.5, but the B5 and V6 is similar.

I couldn’t have undertaken this project without the help of the many resources in the Audi Forums below. I will also be taking snippets from them for this to put it all in one place.

Biketsai's DIY Auto-to-Manual Conversion

YET another 5-speed swap - in progress

Many, many thanks to vwb5t for the help and knowledge on pulling it all apart and putting it back together.



Items needed/should replace:

  • Auto transmission mounts
  • Auto trans bracket for pass side of transmission
  • Brake and clutch pedal with spring, clutch master retention pin, long pin and pin clips. (or whole assembly)
  • Clutch switch and at least 4-6” of its wiring pigtail (for cruise control and other items later explained)
  • Starter interrupt clutch switch with wiring(shows pedal pushed in for start; not required, but good to have)
  • Audi/VW 5 Speed manual trans 01A
  • Reverse switch wiring pigtail from donor car
  • clutch pilot bearing 15x24x26mm # 034105313A
  • New clutch (I went with the Valeo SMFW conversion)
  • New clutch master cylinder
  • New clutch slave cylinder
  • Manual axles for your year of Passat
  • New Axle bolts, inner flange and outer
  • Manual trans downpipe and associated gaskets
  • Shifter assembly and linkage
  • Clutch hard line from master cylinder to slave (or braided line if you can get it)
  • New Flywheel bolts (these are tq to yield)
  • Two Feet of 5/16th Vac Hose for pedal-brake reservoir line
  • Engine Rear main seal (mine was completely dry and perfect at 155k)

Tools:

  • Transmission Jack
  • 2' Jack stands
  • Jack
  • 12pt. triple square bolt set for the CV axles
  • 17mm 12pt. socket for automatic flywheel bolts
  • T45 Torx socket to remove brake reservoir/thing behind it to access room for the clutch hardline
  • T55 Torx for Torque Converter
  • Torx Bit set
  • Clutch alignment tool (comes with clutch)
  • $25 17mm Allen/12pt Drain
  • Various sockets, extensions, allens, wrenches
  • Impact wrench, air ratchet
  • Torque wrench
  • Angle Grinder (depending on the pilot bearing)
  • Power bleeder (not necessary)
  • Drain pan

Fluid/materials:

  • Brake fluid DOT3/4
  • Blue Loctite
  • Brake cleaner
  • Lots of rags
  • New trans oil (75w80)
Software/coding changes:

  • Recode ECU to Manual (you will get error codes and possibly erratic behavior)
  • Recode ABS module to manual
  • Throttle Body Alignment
Let’s start

You will need enough mechanical knowledge to remove and reinstall the two transmissions. The removal will be a high level overview.


Auto Transmission removal

  1. DISCONNECT BATTERY. This cannot be stressed enough.
  2. Remove the axles
  3. Remove downpipe, either detaching cat converter from turbo or pipe from converter. We found it easier to remove both together from the top, but required cutting the downpipe just ahead of the flex joint. My flex was shot anyway.Remove starter, tuck wires out of the way
  4. Disconnect trans wiring.
  5. Remove tq converter bolts from flexplate through the starter opening. Turning engine clockwise with the front crank bolt to line up each time.
  6. Remove bellhousing bolts
  7. Undo the transmission lines from radiator and detach mounting bracket
  8. Support with trans jack and remove the mounts. For easier maneuvering, Remove the brackets from the trans as well.
  9. Have fun removing the beast. Tq converter may get stuck and separate from the trans causing fluid to go everywhere. Ask me how I know.
Biketsai's DIY Auto-to-Manual Conversion

Some of my pics:
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Sorry, I was thinking brake MC. Yes, you need a clutch master and slave cylinder. Pretty sure you need a new downpipe because of how it is angled or how it is hung form the bracket.

I wrote this up but never got around to starting a thread. It's incomplete, but goes through a good bit and gives an idea of scope.



Biketsai's DIY Auto-to-Manual Conversion

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This is great, thank you. I like your wheel choice as well.

I'm still hung up on the downpipe thing. I didn't reuse the spring bracket thing on the transmission for my exhaust (and I don't plan to), so maybe mine would be ok? Is the MT wider or narrower than the now-defunct AT? If it is narrower than I might be able to get away with what I have, but if it's wider.... 😬

Was the VCDS coding challenging? If I recall correctly, it only involved a couple 1's and 0's swapped out or something.

The passenger side mount is for a V6 AT, yes? Or does it differ from AT to MT?
 

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Is that your lift? :love:
That is vwb5t's (Matt) lift. I drove to to his place in CT on a Friday and then drove back on Sunday to MD with a manual.

@azimmerman here is the coding.

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Thanks for the wheel compliment. They are from a mk6 TDI Golf, IIRC. You need a V6 manual bracket. Read through those links I posted. It's all in there. The manual is narrower, so it may work without a new DP.
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Thanks for all the advice; I'm feeling pretty good about the swap overall. I've found an MT with almost 300k miles; is that too far gone to mess with? These vehicles are getting older now to where the pickings are getting a bit slim.
 

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Me personally I'd be leery of that many miles. It's a crap shoot. Maybe the previous owner knew how to shift and the syncros are still good. Even then I'm quite certain there will be some backlash in all the gears. But like you said, if there's not a lot to pick from you kinda don't have a choice.

I found this.
Manual Transmission Swap Parts Kit 98-05 Audi A4 Passat B5 B5.5 1.8T GFY 118k | CarParts4Sale, Inc.

I purchase stuff from this place. Blake is the owner, he doesn't sell any junk. So it's legit.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking brake MC. Yes, you need a clutch master and slave cylinder. Pretty sure you need a new downpipe because of how it is hung from the bracket.

I wrote this up but never got around to starting a thread. It's incomplete, but goes through a good bit and gives an idea of scope.



Biketsai's DIY Auto-to-Manual Conversion

Some of my pics:
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Back again. I've managed to amass a majority of the parts needed for the swap including a 2002 AWM 5-speed and I'm hoping to start turning wrenches next month when I have some time. I've waited until the end to purchase the pilot bearing to be modified; I found one that matches your part number here:


The thing that makes me wary is the cars it claims to fit span a lineup that somehow misses all VW models and doesn't specify V6 anywhere. Alternatively, I see this one:


This one is a fit for the B5 and B5.5 V6 Passats (among many other models), but the dimensions are initially different than you listed in your post and the part number is not the same either.

So I am to buy the first link with the matching part number, or the one that is listed for the B5 V6? Just looking for one last sanity check on this before I buy it; returns at RockAuto are inconvenient, especially on a <$20 part. Thanks!
 

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It is 034105313A. The second one is for the 1.8T with a manual crank shaft.
 

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