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Anyone with B5.5 LPG fitted Passat? Liquid Petroleum Gas.

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Hello everyone, this is my first post. I live in the UK and I am looking at fitting my 2.0 litre passat with LPG as the petrol prices are £1.20 + per litre! Whereas LPg is currently .50 pence per litre. I have one Autogas quote for £1400. If someone has converted their B5.5 Passat can you tell me costs, gas mileage, durability, any downsides etc?? Many thanks
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I offer you no help on your quest, but am very intrigued....GOOD LUCK:thumbup:
Interesting proposition -- hope you can get it worked out easily. Is LPG easy to come by there?

Beautiful Passat - my favorite color. How long will it take you for a switch to LPG to pay off in savings?
my brother had his jeep converted to lpg in the uk, he loves the savings i will try and find out some info.
Hello everyone, just an update, here is an email I received from a reputable dealer:

Hi Oliver,

The cost of conversion will be £1400 supplied and fitted.

We are an importer, distributor and trainer of both Stargas and Aldesa Multipoint sequential injection systems.

We are an LPGA approved installer and are approved by insurance companies.

The London Congestion Charge is being withdrawn as far as we know.

Conversion time is 2-3 days.

You would expect to save 50% on your fuel bill. Therefore if you weekly spend £100 on petrol expect to pay £50 on LPG.

kindest regards

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Hi Macaddictt,

Well I am not doing much driving at the minute, but my new job will require a longer commute and travel. So I am preparing really. I was thinking about selling it and buying the same year but a 1.9 TDI Passat, but the diesel is 10 pence per litre more expensive than petrol! In the last three years petrol has gone up 40 pence a litre to £1.20 a litre, so another 3 years at the same rate we are talking something like £1.60 or £1.70 per litre! Right now it costs £70.00 to fill the passat with petrol (which is like 140 US Dollars), so in three years time it will be well over £100. The LPG is fairly common in the UK, and it gives you a congestion charge exemption in London (Manchester near me is talking about a new congestion charge), the current price of LPG is .54 per litre. So to fill the passat should be £35.00 as opposed to £70.00. I think it should pay for itself in a couple years. But in another email from the fitter of the LPG, he says that demand is increasing and there is already over a month waiting list, the next fuel rise things will get crazy.
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p.s. most petrol stations over here run by Shell have LPG at the same pumps as Diesel and Petrol, so its pretty common at the pumps as well
One more thing, the spare tire is replaced with an LPG tank and they give a can of tire weld in case you have a flat, there will be a switch inside the car that you can choose either petrol or LPG. Once LPG runs out it automatically switches to petrol. There will be an extra fuel cap near the petrol fuel cap to allow LPG, unfortunately they have to drill a small hole to fit the new cap into the quarter panel of the passat. It doesn't look bad, it will just show a black fuel cap next to the petrol fuel door. I think only the Eurostar train does not let LPG car onboard incase they explode, but no problem on the bRitish ferries to mainland Europe. In mainland Europe LPG is very popular. I also think smaller cars cannot be fitted with LPG due to the problem of space for the LPG tank.
Just a couple of thoughts. You're assumptions were based upon gasoline (petrol) rising at a linear rate over the next few years. Depending on your age, you will remember three prior rapid run-ups of the price of petrol. In ALL cases, the demand peaked, and the price fell back to a more normal price where it held for several years. I think the logic that the price of petrol will continue at the present rate is flawed.

Second, is that you used the recent price increase of petrol to project your future savings, but you never used the same model to project the future price of LPG. I believe if you take the recent increase in LPG prices over the same time as petrol you will find that LPG is actually increasing in price FASTER than petrol.

I am not trying to flame, or shoot down your idea, but just think we all need to not get stampeeded (western slang) by the recent world turmoil and run-up in gasoline (petrol).
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Regarding your comments these may be true in the USA, but I have never seen petrol prices "peak" the fall back in England, unless you are talking from experience living here? LPG has risen in price as well, but that was not the point of my post. Please let me know how the prices have "fell back" in the USA when I read about price increases in the USA?
p.s. LPG has been popular in England since the early mid-1990's I do not think anyone is you????
You're right Oliver, I have no knowledge of the petrol market in the UK. Here in the colonies, we see a nasty run up in price every summer during the high demand season, when the refineries say they are doing maintainence and can't keep up with the demand, and then prices always ease after the kids go back to school in September.

The three major run ups I was talking about was the "Energy Crisis #1" which was about 1972-73, prices trippled (from $.25 cents a gallon to $.75) in about a year. This caused a world oil recession, inflation and interest rates around 20%. The savings and loan industry collapsed California foreclosures were setting new records and the government kicked in 300 billion in the form of "Resolution Trust" bonds to bail out the ecconomy. Gasoline didn't "fall back" in price, but it held between $.75 and $.80 cents a gallon until 1979 about 6 years. While inflation continued to push the adjusted price down.

The next big "Energy Crisis #2 came in 1979-80 when the price doubled from about $.75 cents a gallon to $1.40 a gallon. This time with Greenspan at the helm of the federal reserve a national ecconomic crisis was averted and after some quick action, oil prices held steady with gasoline being sold at around $1.50 for the next 20 years. (While adjusting for inflation by the winter of 2002 we were paying about $.40 cents per gallon with adjustment).

Since then, we have seen some pretty steady run-ups in the price of gasoline and crude oil. In the summer of 2005 it jumped from $2.20 to $3.20 a gallon but by winter it was back to $2.20. During the summer of 2006 it repeated the action of 2005.

Last year during the summer it jumped up to $3.40 a gallon, but fell back to $3.00 per gallon by winter.

Right now we are in the middle of another serious run-up in price. The mortgage industry is on the brink of collapse and the Government is considering pumping in billions of dollars to bail out another lending industry. History does indeed repeat its self. Even at today's prices adjusted for inflation, you are paying about the equilivent of $1.50 a gallon based on US earning ability.

Now, I know all this crap doesn't help you pay your gas bill tomorrow on your way to work. However I don't think these conditions will last, and I will predict that gas will be back to about $3.00 per gallon by the end of this year. Let's see if I'm right.

Of course all of this is for the US market. You're right, I don't know what's happening to you in the UK, and your conditions could be much better or much worse depending on the politics, government regulations, and other unintended consequences of politicians acting before they think. (We have an abundance of that on this side of the pond and I would love to send some of them on permanent vacation if you could suggest a location).
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