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abs codes leads to auto trans being immobilized?
hello,
This is my first real post in the forum, for the short period of time I have been on here I have found so much useful information. Seems to be a great place. I have a few questions related to this platform. I picked up a b5 passat v6 30v for cheap. The guy said as the car warmed up the trans slipped to the point it didnt move anymore. Leave it sit and cool down and it repeats itself. I scanned the car with vag com and here are the full list of codes..
now what I found interesting was, as I tried to move the car it drove fine (cold) but the left rear caliper was locked up. I tried rocking it back and forth a bit and the "ABS fault" came on the dash and the car beeped, at this point the trans wouldn't move in any gear. I shut the car off to try and get the caliper freed up. I had to jump the car to get it started again and it was fine, until it tripped the abs fault code again and wouldn't move. My question is, are the abs speed sensors that are tripping causing the transmission to slip and not move? im not familiar with these transmissions or how they are related when other faults trip. any insight is appreciated.. thanks
Chad
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4 (x64)
Data version: 20120807
Monday,21,January,2013,17:27:27:29751
Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
Mileage: 352640km/219120miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 078-907-551-ATQ.lbl
Part No: 3B0 907 551 AN
Component: 2.8L V6/5V G 0003
Coding: 07551
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 6FE645A32DE93B60C8F
5 Faults Found:
18032 - MIL Request Signal Active (Check TCM for errors too!)
P1624 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
16946 - System Voltage
P0562 - 35-10 - Too Low - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 35-10 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-00 -
16687 - Cylinder 3
P0303 - 35-00 - Misfire Detected
Readiness: 0010 0001
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 AS
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l5V USA 3132
Coding: 00104
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 7EF868E77A8342E8539
1 Fault Found:
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring
P0730 - 35-00 - Incorrect Gear Ratio
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 111 AH
Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT D10
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 64CC3A8FF42F8838A5D
3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
35-00 - -
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)
35-00 - -
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
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This is my first real post in the forum, for the short period of time I have been on here I have found so much useful information. Seems to be a great place. I have a few questions related to this platform. I picked up a b5 passat v6 30v for cheap. The guy said as the car warmed up the trans slipped to the point it didnt move anymore. Leave it sit and cool down and it repeats itself. I scanned the car with vag com and here are the full list of codes..
now what I found interesting was, as I tried to move the car it drove fine (cold) but the left rear caliper was locked up. I tried rocking it back and forth a bit and the "ABS fault" came on the dash and the car beeped, at this point the trans wouldn't move in any gear. I shut the car off to try and get the caliper freed up. I had to jump the car to get it started again and it was fine, until it tripped the abs fault code again and wouldn't move. My question is, are the abs speed sensors that are tripping causing the transmission to slip and not move? im not familiar with these transmissions or how they are related when other faults trip. any insight is appreciated.. thanks
Chad
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.4 (x64)
Data version: 20120807
Monday,21,January,2013,17:27:27:29751
Chassis Type: 3B - VW Passat B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
Mileage: 352640km/219120miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 078-907-551-ATQ.lbl
Part No: 3B0 907 551 AN
Component: 2.8L V6/5V G 0003
Coding: 07551
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 6FE645A32DE93B60C8F
5 Faults Found:
18032 - MIL Request Signal Active (Check TCM for errors too!)
P1624 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
16946 - System Voltage
P0562 - 35-10 - Too Low - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 35-10 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-00 -
16687 - Cylinder 3
P0303 - 35-00 - Misfire Detected
Readiness: 0010 0001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 AS
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l5V USA 3132
Coding: 00104
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 7EF868E77A8342E8539
1 Fault Found:
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring
P0730 - 35-00 - Incorrect Gear Ratio
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 111 AH
Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT D10
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 64CC3A8FF42F8838A5D
3 Faults Found:
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
35-00 - -
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)
35-00 - -
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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from my experience that code in the trans (incorrect gear ratio) means a bad transmission..what you can do is unhook the abs and to move it
To clarify, by "unhook the ABS", he means to disconnect the electric connection on the side. It has a slide-lock feature that keeps the connector in place.
Some of those voltage errors you list are likely caused by disconnecting the battery or the jump that you had to give it once the battery died. I'd recommend clearing the codes and firing it back up to see if they reappear
Some of those voltage errors you list are likely caused by disconnecting the battery or the jump that you had to give it once the battery died. I'd recommend clearing the codes and firing it back up to see if they reappear
Since the trans seems OK when cold, but not hot, that implies that there is a chance, but just, that the clutches have enough material, but the clutch-pack piston seals are too hard and not sealing the hot, thinned-out ATF. At this point you can try a fluid change with a seal conditioner, just to see if it works in your case. I'm have always used Valvoline MaxLife ATF in these transmissions, and should get around 6+ quarts in it if you haven't driven the car for many hours, and pull the pan. You should do this anyway to see if there are any debris in the pan, and to change the filter, unless you decide to just get a replacement trans instead.from my experience that code in the trans (incorrect gear ratio) means a bad transmission..what you can do is unhook the abs and to move it
Well I did have the car running and I did try to clear them, they wouldnt clear and the trans stayed immobilized. But if I shut the car down (I had to jump it due to a dead battery) The transmission would move until the "abs fault" appeared and it was back to square one.To clarify, by "unhook the ABS", he means to disconnect the electric connection on the side. It has a slide-lock feature that keeps the connector in place.
Some of those voltage errors you list are likely caused by disconnecting the battery or the jump that you had to give it once the battery died. I'd recommend clearing the codes and firing it back up to see if they reappear
Yeah it was down to single digits here last night and below 0 with the wind chill. Those temperatures are supposed to stay until next week sometime so I'll do that exact thing then and see if anything is in the pan. I was debating too on removing the valve body and dissembling it and cleaning everything. I'm not sure if that would do anything as to there are no codes related to the valve body.Since the trans seems OK when cold, but not hot, that implies that there is a chance, but just, that the clutches have enough material, but the clutch-pack piston seals are too hard and not sealing the hot, thinned-out ATF. At this point you can try a fluid change with a seal conditioner, just to see if it works in your case. I'm have always used Valvoline MaxLife ATF in these transmissions, and should get around 6+ quarts in it if you haven't driven the car for many hours, and pull the pan. You should do this anyway to see if there are any debris in the pan, and to change the filter, unless you decide to just get a replacement trans instead.
But most of you are leaning toward a new trans?
pull the trans dipstick and take a good smell- it should not smell like it's burnt. if it ys brown to black, you have a problem. best to have a trans shop look at it before making the decision to change out/rebuild.
What trans dipstick??? There's no dipstick on the ZF 5HP19 transmissions.pull the trans dipstick and take a good smell-
Just to make sure everyone is on the same page.....I know you meant well.pull the trans dipstick and take a good smell- it should not smell like it's burnt. if it ys brown to black, you have a problem. best to have a trans shop look at it before making the decision to change out/rebuild.
OE fluid is honey colored. Brown is fine and it can be black in as little as 30-40k.
Also, there is no trans dipstick.
I'm going to change it and replace the filter as well. I'll take a look at the fluid that's currently in there now and see if it seems burnt and black/brownish. I'll post back with results. Thanks guys.
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