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Hey y’all. I have a 2002 Passat 2.8 L 4motion.
I have the transmission out and I’m currently looking for a replacement. Was wondering if I could swap the same transmission from an Audi.

what would happen if I swapped the transmission and the codes were not the same,
I wouldn’t mind if the gear ratio was just a little bit different.
my transmission has a code : FAS.
the Audi trans is an : FEP
 

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The backstory is my passat has 185xxx. Over the period of about 6 months the transmission started slipping. At the beginning I changed the trans fluid and filter to see if that would help. It slowly started getting worse to the point going from reverse to first gear would hesitate and take a few seconds to finally go into gear. The trans progressed from that point to not wanting to shift from 1st to 2nd without hesitastion. It was a real pain in the but at the intersection of stop sign. After that traveling to work the trans would kick itself into limp mode. I would pull over and reset the car and continue on. I remember on a couple of occasions hearing grinding noise from the trans areas.
I can’t remember if it was in neutral and cold starts or when…
Finally the car would slip so bad it was no longer driveable.
before I pulled the trans I pulled the codes.
they were.
p0741, p0734, p0735.

I don’t remember the car having and issue in 4th and 5th gear.
but I know the torque converter is bad.
What are your guys thoughts?
 

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You would need to match the same gear ratio unless you change the rear differential. The FAS had a 4.11 ratio, but I don't have the ratio for the FEP.
Different years had different electrical component locations which complicate swapping between the different trans model codes. I found swapping to a manual trans to be the easiest/cheaper solution rather than having the trans rebuilt.
You would need the 6sp manual from either a B5 S4 or a C5 A6 2.7T (not Allroad).
 

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Another thing i did not notice the first time was that the tailshaft is different on the FEP compared to FAS transmission.
What do you mean electrical component locations like the valve body? As far as the six speed swap goes that’s not some thing I’m really interested in at the moment.

When I separated the transmission from the Engine block the torque converter was a pain in the butt to pull out so I’m assuming that is where my issue lies… For the p0741 code.
The research I’ve done suggests gunk flowing around the transmission pump can cease the two together. Also the torque converter seal going bad…. I think I’m going to lean towards a rebuild of the transmission and do it myself I was scared at first just out of ignorance but really it doesn’t seem that hard. So next step is going to disassemble the transmission and take a look at the internal parts to see if a rebuild is viable.
As far as the P0735 and P0734 codes with that be caused by my clutch packs going bad?
I remember driving the car and it being fine especially going 70 or 80 miles an hour the only problem would be when the computer check the car in a limp mode.
And later on the really bad slipping.
 

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It could be the transmission oil pump bushing is shot. That's a fairly common problem and would explain the leak and why the TC was so hard to remove. I can't remember the details but if it's bad enough you might need some machining done and/or an over-sized replacement bushing, new TC or oil pump.

 

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It could be the transmission oil pump bushing is shot. That's a fairly common problem and would explain the leak and why the TC was so hard to remove. I can't remember the details but if it's bad enough you might need some machining done and/or an over-sized replacement bushing, new TC or oil pump.

It could be the transmission oil pump bushing is shot. That's a fairly common problem and would explain the leak and why the TC was so hard to remove. I can't remember the details but if it's bad enough you might need some machining done and/or an over-sized replacement bushing, new TC or oil pump.


My plan is to just replace the pump all together.

I’ll definitely take a look to see what the bushing looks like!
 

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I've had a couple where the TC pulled the bushing out of the pump. If you have the tools and clean work space, a rebuilt is a better idea than a mismatched replacement.
There is a temp sensor that can either be in the wiring harness or inside the trans depending on the model. There is also a speed sensor of some type (input or shaft?) that is different between models. I'm not an expert on that and never really got into the internals of anything above a TH400 about 40 years ago.

I have the PDF of the 01V trans, hopefully, the attachment works.
 

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Hey y’all. I have a 2002 Passat 2.8 L 4motion.
I have the transmission out and I’m currently looking for a replacement. Was wondering if I could swap the same transmission from an Audi.

what would happen if I swapped the transmission and the codes were not the same,
I wouldn’t mind if the gear ratio was just a little bit different.
my transmission has a code : FAS.
the Audi trans is an : FEP
I would be tempted to purchase an install a low mileage transmission with the same code as yours like this one for $701.00 plus shipping bringing the total closer to $900.00.
You might be able to find one closer to your location if that price is too much.
How much will parts cost to rebuild your current transmission?

 

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So finally got around to pulling the transmission apart. Pretty sure I found all the culprits for the codes. First off was that the oil pump bushing had spun out. It was freely spinning and chewed up good. The second thing was the sleeve/bushing on the F-drum had been pushed down. That explains why in the morning I could drive for a good amount of time before the car kicked it selves into limp mode….
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I found an 05 FAS trans that was lower miles (according to a vin check) at the pull yard. I pulled that apart and it looks really good, you can still see the writing on the clutch disks and The f-drum is still good, so the plan is to order a new torque converter and upgrade the pressure regulator valve on the valve body and throw everything back in the car.
here are some of the links and videos I followed that helped me out.





 

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Once it's done and back on the road and driving, I will move this to the info forum. This is the most I have seen anyone dive into the Auto in all the years I have been here. Or at least documented it.
 

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Ok so got the car fired up. But having a couple issues. The only check engine lights are for 02 sensors.
The car will not shift down into 3rd or 2nd on the gear selector. It gets held up. Shifts through park-4th fine…

The trans does not engage in any gear.
What am I missing ?
 

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I’ve added only 4 quarts of fluid besides what was in the TC. And can’t add any more… I’m prettier sure I set the TC onto the pump correctly before I bolted the trans up to the flywheel. But something is def not right.
 

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Was the TC pushed back behind the opening for the engine speed sensor? I suspect it is not engaged completely. It should be about 1" away from the flywheel when the trans is installed.
 

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The only other issue could see causing this would be a problem with the pickup tube on the filter.
This is how far the TC needs to be back, completely behind the sensor opening. I felt 3 distinct clicks as each part engaged.
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