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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchior View Post
    But to get back to my original point, isn't the A6 (C5) the logical choice for someone who might want a little bit "better" car than a B5 Passat?
    Sure.

    An Audi for that time period was essentially an AWD VW with more convenience electronics. The interior styling of both are a matter of preference. A B5 4Motion Passat is basically a Passat body frame laid on a C5 Audi A6 chassis (same drivetrain, 2.8 motor, etc.) The A6 would allow you to also choose between a 2.7t (V6 biturbo) and 4.2l V8.

    If you compare Audi to VW now (ie. the present,) you get a lot more deviation. Audi has emerged as the luxury brand that VWAG has probably always intended it to be. Audi's also continue to have much more complexity like four link suspension, independent rear suspension, quattro, etc. then any VW (minus maybe the Touraeg.) In the meantime, VW is still deciding whether or not it will offer more for the layman's VW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -BEE5- View Post
    Yes. It would make a nice upgrade but If I could do It again I would get the 4.2L C5 and do 6spd swap

    What is "6spd swap"?

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    What do you think it means after reading through the thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbora01 View Post
    What do you think it means after reading through the thread?

    We can show you the door, but you have to walk through it.

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    I see it was mentioned earlier, but I still don't understand. I am not a mechanic.

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    I'm currently driving a '99 1.8T Passat and the wife has a '05 A6 3.2 Quattro. The Audi is a great car and came with just about every bell and whistle known to man. I bought it used on ebay from a dealer in Dallas and it's been a great car. I'm at the point where I'm starting to do my own maintenance on the Audi so I've been checking out some of the Audi forums for tips. We bought an extended warranty on it when we purchased the car and it just ran out last year. Up til then it had been taken to the dealership for service. So far I've only done an oil change on the Audi, but I expect there will be more things to do down the road. The car only has about 77k miles on it.

    The Audi is more luxurious than my Passat and by far the nicest car I've ever owned, but I think the Passat is more fun to drive and actually has a better ride. The Audi appears to have a stiffer suspension and low profile tires so you tend to feel the road a lot more. The wife had a '98 1.8T Passat prior to the Audi and I had also picked up a '99 V6 Passat for my son on ebay that got totalled by a drunk driver. Fortunately, my son wasn't in the car at the time as it was parked in front of a friend's house where he was staying the night. He replaced it with an '02 A4 1.8T he picked up at a local auction that turned out to be a money pit so he eventually traded it in for a used Camry at CarMax. My '99 was also purchased on ebay (actually, it was the first of the ebay purchases) and I got a great deal on it from a local seller (less than $10k with about 29k miles). The '99 V6 was the only GLX of the bunch and it was a really nice car while it was alive.

    What I find interesting and also a bit frustrating is that parts for Audis that are essentially identical to VW parts tend to be priced at twice the cost, if not more. I think it's criminal that they charge you more for something just because they slap the name of a luxury car on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchior View Post
    I see it was mentioned earlier, but I still don't understand. I am not a mechanic.
    Its when you swap a 6 speed MANUAL transmission in place of the 5 speed AUTOMATIC transmission. Its a conversion. Anytime someone mentions swap, that's usually an indication. Either transmission or engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain_video View Post
    I'm currently driving a '99 1.8T Passat and the wife has a '05 A6 3.2 Quattro. The Audi is a great car and came with just about every bell and whistle known to man. I bought it used on ebay from a dealer in Dallas and it's been a great car. I'm at the point where I'm starting to do my own maintenance on the Audi so I've been checking out some of the Audi forums for tips. We bought an extended warranty on it when we purchased the car and it just ran out last year. Up til then it had been taken to the dealership for service. So far I've only done an oil change on the Audi, but I expect there will be more things to do down the road. The car only has about 77k miles on it.

    The Audi is more luxurious than my Passat and by far the nicest car I've ever owned, but I think the Passat is more fun to drive and actually has a better ride. The Audi appears to have a stiffer suspension and low profile tires so you tend to feel the road a lot more. The wife had a '98 1.8T Passat prior to the Audi and I had also picked up a '99 V6 Passat for my son on ebay that got totalled by a drunk driver. Fortunately, my son wasn't in the car at the time as it was parked in front of a friend's house where he was staying the night. He replaced it with an '02 A4 1.8T he picked up at a local auction that turned out to be a money pit so he eventually traded it in for a used Camry at CarMax. My '99 was also purchased on ebay (actually, it was the first of the ebay purchases) and I got a great deal on it from a local seller (less than $10k with about 29k miles). The '99 V6 was the only GLX of the bunch and it was a really nice car while it was alive.

    What I find interesting and also a bit frustrating is that parts for Audis that are essentially identical to VW parts tend to be priced at twice the cost, if not more. I think it's criminal that they charge you more for something just because they slap the name of a luxury car on it.
    glad youre happy with the A6. the stiffer suspension is probably aftermarket. my A6 came with a very soft and comfortable suspension, which i later swapped out for a stiffer one because i wanted to go low. the stock suspension made the car super high like a monster truck.
    and i am with you on the 1.8t problems. my 2005 a4 is nothing but a money pit. from now on i think im going to stick with naturally aspirated cars until i'm wealthy enough to afford a car thats always having problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbora01 View Post
    Its when you swap a 6 speed MANUAL transmission in place of the 5 speed AUTOMATIC transmission. Its a conversion. Anytime someone mentions swap, that's usually an indication. Either transmission or engine.

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    OK, my 2001 Passat GLX has the 5-speed Manual. I was aware that some kind of transmission swapping was being discussed, but the details were unclear. I wish people on here would elaborate more. Not all of us are experts or mechanics. I have owned six VW cars.

    But back to my original question: Isn't a C5 Audi A6 pretty much the same car as the B5 Passat, with a slightly bigger body? I was looking at a 1999 V6 2.8L Audi A6 on Saturday, and under the hood it looked basically identical to my car.

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    The B5 Passat is between the B5 A4 and C5 A6, really. People lump the B5 Passat and A4 together more often because the motor choices were the same (at least in NA spec cars). And most parts shared between the B5 Passat and C5 A6 are also shared on the B5 A4 (front suspension, to name a big one).

    But the rear end of a B5 Passat 4mo is closer to, if not the same as, the quattro C5 A6.

    Historically, the Passat (Dasher, Quantum) were based on the B-chassis Audi, not the C chassis. I am not sure if the Passat was adapted from the B5 or C5; but I would guess the former.

    Edit--got former and latter screwed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zak99B5 View Post
    The B5 Passat is between the B5 A4 and C5 A6, really. People lump the B5 Passat and A4 together more often because the motor choices were the same (at least in NA spec cars). And most parts shared between the B5 Passat and C5 A6 are also shared on the B5 A4 (front suspension, to name a big one).

    But the rear end of a B5 Passat 4mo is closer to, if not the same as, the quattro C5 A6.

    Historically, the Passat (Dasher, Quantum) were based on the B-chassis Audi, not the C chassis. I am not sure if the Passat was adapted from the B5 or C5; but I would guess the latter.

    What are the weights of these various cars? I have been looking and cannot find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchior View Post
    What are the weights of these various cars? I have been looking and cannot find them.
    Scroll down to B5 Passat, it varies on the engine, transmission, and trim package.
    Volkswagen - Passat - Technical specifications, Fuel economy (consumption)
    Approx 3400 lbs for 2.8 V6 with 4Motion
    Approx 3200 lbs for 2.8 V6 with Front Wheel Drive only


    B5 Audi A4
    Audi - A4 - Technical specifications, Fuel economy (consumption)
    Approx. 3100 lbs with 2.8 V6 and Quattro

    C5 Audi A6
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    Approx 3800 lbs with 2.7t and Quattro

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    I joined this forum mostly to learn more about the B5 Passat and related Audi cars. I am not a do-it-yourself mechanic and am not interested in doing my own repairs.

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    My 2000 B5 Passat Wagon (2.8L, 5spd manual) I bought June 2016 was rear-ended and I just bought an Audi A6 Avant Quattro (2.8L, automatic) at auction. If there's anything wrong with the automatic transmission in the Audi, would it be reasonable to swap in the 5spd from the Passat? My Passat has the ATQ engine and I haven't gotten the Audi from Copart yet.
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    You would want to find a 4 motion Passat manual trans at the very least. Even then, the gear ratios may be off and also the rear axle ratio. Vague, I know, but something to start with until others chime in.
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    I was hoping to salvage from the Passat I'm parting out. Oh well.

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