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Improved Evoms Intake Project!!!

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#1 ·
ok, now everyone knows that evoms cai does not give you much performance because of too much heat and all.
and i've seen some really impressive job donen by dzigner.
I am also thinking about selling this kit.
but i think this might work.
i will include picture later tonight of the specific placement of parts.

i've tried different orientation of the cone filter, placed down, placed up so the cone filter stands out. but realised when it is placed as the instruction, it is sucking in greater heat then when it is placed down. (i will post pictures of this orientation).

my solution, (its not crazy custom job) :p

it is to incorprate the STOCK air intake parts WITH the EVOMS intake.
you guys know there is a tubing that one end is placed right behind the front grill?
using that and the other tubing connected with it, without the stock "box"(that carries the filter) might bring in more air from the outside directly to the cone filter. i mean those stock tubes are huge.
and also covering the whole top area with the stock "cover" so even when the hood is closed, heat will not get sucked from above!
i know this may sound like :rolleyes: what is he saying?
i will post of specific pictures later tonight after work, and show you guys how this might help alot.
dzigner did an awesome job making a seprate tubing from the bottom front bumper to the cone and additional heat shielding materials blocking the whole mid section. i've just tried thinking about another way instead of having everything custom made. some don't have the knowledge(me :D ) and some don't have a nice cut area in the bumper(votex) for the tubing~
this thinking was actually inspired from him :thumbup:

stock air intake box was designed for the maximum heat protection and air flow. using it with the evoms may just do the job~

this is ALL CONCEPT GUYS, after i post of pics and explain exactly how it is, give me opinions, if the calls are good i will get on it that moment, if not i will sell my evoms.. :icon_eek:
thnx guys for reading this (maybe worthless) project~ :lol:
 
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#5 ·
Got Pics!!!!!!!

ok, here it is people!
my proposal for this small project.

First Picture: my evoms intake


Second Picture: Stock Air Intake Parts needed!


Third Picture: Install the Front part of the stock air intake.


Fourth Picture: Install the Second part of the stock piece connecting the first. This will DRAG THE OUTSIDE AIR FROM THE FRONT GRILL! :lol:


Fifth Picture: I will probably have to modify the tips of this stock air tubing to direct it MORE to the evoms cone filter.


Last Picture: use the COVER of the stock part to COVER UP THE TOP AREA BECAUSE IT WILL BLOCK THE HEAT FROM THE ENGINE FAN AND OTHER HEATS THAT WILL ACCUMULATE WHEN HOOD IS CLOSED!!!
I need to get a fixture to have this cover fit. its just placed right now on the image.


Finished!!!!
the evoms will suck air from the stock tubing and the cover will block all the heat when hood is closed! :thumbup: :thumbup:

I will start this when i get some ideas of the cover fixture~
I hope this is understandable now?
 
#6 ·
no harm in doing what you did to direct cold air to the pod filter, however you should probably make a heat shield to protect it from heat from the turbo.

Incidently I did extensive test of engine bay heat in and around the airbox, take my word for it our engine bay is very efficient in moving hot air out once moving but while stationary you will suffer from drawing in engine heat for that reason alone such a mod with an open pod is a poor idea.
 
#7 ·
thnx wal for your information man~ appreciate it
i also did test of engine bay heat around the intake area. after hard running the bottom side of the pod filter was not hot at all because you know there is a open area underneath the filter. HOWEVER the top side of filter was extremely hot.

I did a test run with this just now, and guess what? POD FILTER IS COOL~ to the touch!!!! ALL AROUND!!!! it just sucks in the air from the front and the bottom open area draws out the heat from turbo,, i literally felt with my bare hands everywhere around the filter~ :)
 
#8 ·
I don't doubt what you say and its certainly an improvement over a bar pod element, if you took real temperature mearsurements you would be very surprised at how cool the engine bay is when the car is moving. One thing I would stress if you intend to keep the exisiting fitment, is get a heat shield made to create a barrier between the pod and the turbo/exhaust, do this and you will find even cooler temps.
 
#10 ·
Nicely done, jae................. but as Wal mentioned, try putting some aluminum or some kind with the evo heatshield to keep the heat away. I know once you're moving it really doesn't matter but I'm sure you'll get stuck in traffic here and there. Other than that, very nicely done.





Josh
 
#16 ·
Wal said:
I don't doubt what you say and its certainly an improvement over a bar pod element, if you took real temperature mearsurements you would be very surprised at how cool the engine bay is when the car is moving. One thing I would stress if you intend to keep the exisiting fitment, is get a heat shield made to create a barrier between the pod and the turbo/exhaust, do this and you will find even cooler temps.

thanks for the comment guys, and after reading what you wrote wal, i went to my auto performance shop and asked for heat shielding material. i'm also gonna check out my body shop later and ask where i can get some high quality material. as i said long time ago, i goto Rhode Island School of Design majoring in Industrial Design, we have the state of the art facility in metals shop wood shop and model shop. :lol: i'm gonna try to get additional heat shield for this baby~
RUSTY, someone already did this? :icon_eek: its ok,
 
#17 ·
good stuff jae. but like what others recommended, get a heatshield (doesnt the evom kit come with 1?). jroo-vw has just customized his evom setup, perhaps you can pm him for ideas. basically he pulled some tube(s) from the lower grill, coam style, and feeds air that way to the evom. i dont think the stock tubes will help the evom "suck" air, instead, it'll allow the evom to breath cooler air from the outside without getting warmed up by the temperature under the hood. however, you will not feel lowend improvement since you'll only get that outside air when traveling at a certain speed. that's why when you are idling you are only recycling the engine air. you can also heatshield the stock tubes by wrapping some heat-resistant material around them. someone here had done so recently.

see glyphin's nice writeup:
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183926&highlight=heatshield

jaemurl said:
i goto Rhode Island School of Design majoring in Industrial Design, we have the state of the art facility in metals shop wood shop and model shop. :lol: i'm gonna try to get additional heat shield for this baby~
what?? hook me up! :D
 
#18 ·
evoms do come with heat shield
its this

the black vertical shield thing is the one that evoms comes with.


today after hard driving in the morning, i come inside my garage and the filter is still cool, but the rest of the piping that is connect from the cone to the turbo was really hot..
the body shop i went said he will call me when he founds out where they sell the best heat shielding product.
oh and charlie thnx for the link, i found that heat shielding material you wrap around,, i'll prolly order some of those later and wrap around everything.

now, thnx for all the comments.
i was wandering if i attached the end of the stock tube to the filter and have it literally all wrapped around. that did not make any sense, let me draw you guys what i mean.

:lol: :lol:
 
#24 ·
Ok this is what I don't friggin get . . . Jaemurl obviously didn't read the instructions and now he thinks he came up with something new and improved?

The EVO instructions TELL YOU to use the stock air ducting and cover. In fact that's one of their main selling points . . . . that the intake looks stock with all the covers on.

One thing Jae forgot to do was to trim the stock tubing so that it directs airflow more evenly.

Geez. . . . next time read the friggin instructions for the kit you bought.

http://www.evoms.com/PDF Files/audi/A4-Passat V6 28L Intake Inst1.pdf

It says right there pretty clearly that you are supposed to use the stock tract.

Dave
 
#26 ·
crew217 said:
Ok this is what I don't friggin get . . . Jaemurl obviously didn't read the instructions and now he thinks he came up with something new and improved?

The EVO instructions TELL YOU to use the stock air ducting and cover. In fact that's one of their main selling points . . . . that the intake looks stock with all the covers on.

One thing Jae forgot to do was to trim the stock tubing so that it directs airflow more evenly.

Geez. . . . next time read the friggin instructions for the kit you bought.

http://www.evoms.com/PDF Files/audi/A4-Passat V6 28L Intake Inst1.pdf

It says right there pretty clearly that you are supposed to use the stock tract.

Dave


i had beef with you last time. I don't want another one.
and yes you were right it does say it in the manual. i had it installed by my auto shop and never had a chance to look at the manual. my bad man but you need to chill out. why you gotta be so negative? why you gotta be so discouraging and telling me straight out that i'm friggin dumb?
i really hate it when you come to my post and make a dick out of me. you so proud man? living in this forum all day searching for people to make a dumb ass out of themselves?

sorry guys, if it was the first time i've seen him i would ignore but i had beef wit that guy long time ago and i was the one to apologize first. and now he came back to make me look more stupid and useless
 
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