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    Fading Lcd on Instrument cluster

    Friends, This topic has been discussed lot of time but i got one more solution for it from other site--
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...r-Pixel-Repair

    So after going through it i went to ebay and found one supplier--
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LCD-C...mZ170474173484

    According to all above can it be possible to do it on my 2002, 2.0, 4cyl, passat.

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    Careful. the ebay part is a full-screen LCD. i believe yours is a half-height LCD. i've looked and can't locate a supplier for the half-height screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toneman View Post
    Careful. the ebay part is a full-screen LCD. i believe yours is a half-height LCD. i've looked and can't locate a supplier for the half-height screen.
    Mine is full size Lcd, whole of the sceen has light, top portion has fm and lowest has all auto gear details.

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    you're in luck then! soldering skills is all it takes. let us know how it goes.

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    My LCD seems to just be affected by the heat, or are there cases of the individual pixels wearing out?

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    mine by heat as well
    anybody had any luck locating a replacement 1/2 screen lcd
    or any way to replace with full lcd

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    If you don't have experience in surface mount soldering, then don't even bother trying to replace the LCD yourself. If you want a full height LCD, get a cluster that has a full height LCD. The controller for the 1/2 height LCD is different than the one for the full height, and won't drive it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danger_Zone View Post
    Friends, This topic has been discussed lot of time but i got one more solution for it from other site--
    <A href="http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/263498-Official-DIY-2000-Audi-S4-LCD-Instrument-Cluster-Pixel-Repair" target=_blank>http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...r-Pixel-Repair</A>

    So after going through it i went to ebay and found one supplier--
    <A href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336653656&toolid=10001&mpre=http% 3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FLCD-CLUSTER-DISPLAY-AUDI-A3-A4-A6-S3-S4-S6-VW-VDO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26ituQ3d UCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d8Q26pmodQ3d17051437857 0Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d64136770881346457 43QQ_trksidZp4712Q2em263QQcategoryZ38655QQitemZ170 474173484" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LCD-C...mZ170474173484</A>

    According to all above can it be possible to do it on my 2002, 2.0, 4cyl, passat.
    I still have no idea about what you said, I'm a beginner, Can you explain it more clearly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 024motion View Post
    mine by heat as well
    anybody had any luck locating a replacement 1/2 screen lcd
    or any way to replace with full lcd
    Same here, its hot today and the digital readout has faded but when night falls and its cooler out it is fine...i do not have the patience to try and replace this

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    It will suck, but I thought there was a place that you could send them and they will fix, and send them back. I will search for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundguybob View Post
    If you don't have experience in surface mount soldering, then don't even bother trying to replace the LCD yourself. If you want a full height LCD, get a cluster that has a full height LCD. The controller for the 1/2 height LCD is different than the one for the full height, and won't drive it properly.
    X2. I've been soldering off and on for 40 years, and still don't tackle surface mount stuff if I don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablitormDub View Post
    It will suck, but I thought there was a place that you could send them and they will fix, and send them back. I will search for the information.
    The vendor that does the fix is: http://www.pixelfix.info/
    He was highly recommended by other PW'ers and did a great job on theirs with fast turnaround times and a fraction of the price.

    here is the original thread: Instrument Cluster Repairs

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    by far, the cheapest route, and the one i took, is to buy a used cluster. i got one off ebay for $39.99 plus shipping -- problem solved and no down time for my car w/o a cluster. this was more than a year ago.

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    How hard is it to change out the cluster? Is the mileage in the cluster or computer? I'm getting tired of my faded LCD. It's to the point where it needs to be under 60 degrees for me to read it. In central CA that's not too often!

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    I was under the assumption that if you installed a new cluster it would need to be reprogrammed, which required Vag-com to do? If not, then yes, buy one off ebay. If I'm right, you need to keep that in mind or you'll have 2 non working instrument panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markstahl View Post
    How hard is it to change out the cluster? Is the mileage in the cluster or computer? I'm getting tired of my faded LCD. It's to the point where it needs to be under 60 degrees for me to read it. In central CA that's not too often!
    It's easy to change the cluster. The mileage is stored in the cluster and can't normally be changed, after it has more than a few miles on it (though I hear there are some hacking tools...). You might want to check with the motor vehicles department where you are. Some states allow you to use a certificate stating the true mileage; most require you either set it to the correct mileage or to zero.

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    correcting the mileage is easy as well. there are a few tools out there to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toneman View Post
    correcting the mileage is easy as well. there are a few tools out there to do so.
    Care to illuminate us on exactly what is needed? This topic comes up frequently, and if you know how to do it, you should pass it along. For honest and legal use only, of course.

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    The gold standard to do this is with VAGdashCOM or VAGdashCAN, which will run you $499 Euros and up. http://www.vagdashcom.de/html/bestellung.html If you're really serious about doing this, then this is the setup to get.

    There is a cheaper option called Vag-Tacho, but the problem is that the market has been flooded with a cheap knockoff version (what you'll find on eBay, etc.), and the knockoff is notorious for giving bad reads and writes to the cluster's Eeprom, which leaves a very real chance of bricking the cluster. You can take a risk with this version, but I'll be first in line to say "I told you so" if something goes wrong!

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    So the options are to pay as much for software as for a new cluster, OR to get cheap software with the possibility of having to buy a new cluster. Toneman, that doesn't sound "easy" to me. Sounds like you may pay more than having a dealer install a new one, or you may pay less. I prefer the idea of sending your cluster out to be rebuilt, or just living with it, like I did.

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    You probably already got your display fixed, but if you are still having problems with fading with the red lcd pixel display in the center of the instrument cluster, check out LCD Auto Tech it looks like they can fix it for a reasonable price and it 's in the U.S. so it's fast.

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    Vag-tacho

    CarlosR I appreciate the update because I'm looking for a cheap fix for my faded LCD. However, the site you linked is closed and they say they don't expect to reopen due to unavailability of quality european parts!
    There are still reputable sources for VAG-Tacho. I bought mine from Sidewinderkey.com and it worked fine.
    Last edited by rajinkajin; 04-01-2015 at 12:14 PM. Reason: Additional information:

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    Reflect Tuning :: Home will do it. they are also a good provider of performance ECU upgrades. I have one in my B5. Very nice improvement. Will send my cluster to them if it gets bad this summer.
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    I've used 2 different people recently and both worked fine:
    LCD Auto Tech is in St Paul, MN.

    and locally:
    Marin Mihaljcic
    214-803-5966
    marinmm2001@yahoo.com

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    LCD autotech is closed now.

    How are the prices locally?
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    Price was the same, $180.

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    Looks like these guys closed due to a lack of high quality European LCD displays..... rats.

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    The website is active now...$187 USD

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