Need Eibach Spring Part # Verification Help (Brian Tribble a

[mr.bouton]

Well it only took Impex 2 days to deliver the B5.5 Sport Springs for my B5.5 but the recent posts here on CB5 have me confused about the individual spring part #'s and I want to be sure I received the right ones. I'll also check with Eibach but they're not open on weekends (as well as Labor Day I would guess).

<U>Here's what I ordered:</U>

3B0071676ADSP
Sport Suspension Kit - Passat Sedan 4 cylinder - 1.8T - Model Years 2001.5+


<U>These are the part numbers I received:</U>

On the Box -
VW Passat Lim
Teile-NR 3B0 071 676
8553.140

On the Rear Springs -
EW8553002HA

On the Front Springs -
EW1531001VA


I'm not sure if everything is correct, maybe incorrect and belong to B5 and not B5.5 or . . . . ???

Please help if you can. Thanks.

[torid110]

Here is what i have on mine:

1541 001 VA
8553 202 HA

These are off of the parts directly from Eibach. I suggest you call Eibach directly and verify @ 949-752-6700. That's what i did, cause i was getting confused like you. Good luck.

[mr.bouton]

Thanks, I'm definitely going to call Eibach after the long weekend but I thought I might as well tap into the vast wisdom and info here on CB5 in the meantime. Are the people at Eibach easy to get assistance from?

From your part. #'s , we have slightly different but basically the same versions of the rears (mfg. process change) but the fronts are different.

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[torid110]

Eibach is definitely very helpful. Just tell them you want to verify whether a part fits on your car. It's as easy as that.

[schmove]

man impex should give me some of the profits they're getting for these springs http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif . after i posted that link a month ago it seems that everyone is getting a set from them http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[mr.bouton]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>man impex should give me some of the profits they're getting for these springs http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif . after i posted that link a month ago it seems that everyone is getting a set from them http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was a good deal but I wish they made it easier to be assured that the right springs were included.

[mr.bouton]

Well I spoke with Toby at Eibach like several others have recently. End result is that I have the wrong springs, both front and back. I then talked to Impex again and they have another set in stock but those are incorrect as well (correct front springs but incorrect rear springs). Impex is sending a call tag and everything is being returned.

For those that are interested, here are the correct part numbers that Toby at Eibach gave me:

For VW Sport Springs Kit p/n 3B0071676ADSP (VW Passat -1.8T, either transmission, manufactured date 12/2000 to present)
front springs - EW 1541 001 VA
rear springs - EW 1558 202 HA

[Bockster]

Uh oh, I just ordered the exact same springs from Impex last week. They should probably be arriving at my door sometime this week.... I hope they're the right part numbers! Thanks mr.bouton for clarifiying!

[mr.bouton]

When I spoke with John at Impex today, he said they were taking these kits off the shelf until they can figure out what's what. I posted the correct info that Toby at Eibach gave me to avoid having more people call him. He was helpful and gave me all the info I asked for but he sounded like he was irritated that a vendor was selling kits that were incorrectly configured.

Toby said that the fronts that I received are for an Audi. The rears are correct for a 1.8T B5.5 but they are part of the U.S. Pro-Kits and are not the VW version.

I'm glad that Impex made it easy to return them.

Bockster - you'll probably receive them today. I ordered last Thursday afternoon and they were on my doorstep via Airborne Express on Saturday. Post back and let me know what you receive.


<![CDATA[When I spoke with John at Impex today, he said they were taking these kits off the shelf until they can figure out what's what. I posted the correct info that Toby at Eibach gave me to avoid having more people call him. He was helpful and gave me all the info I asked for but he sounded like he was irritated that a vendor was selling kits that were incorrectly configured.

Toby said that the fronts that I received are for an Audi. The rears are correct for a 1.8T B5.5 but they are part of the U.S. Pro-Kits and are not the VW version.

I'm glad that Impex made it easy to return them.

Bockster - you'll probably receive them today. I ordered last Thursday afternoon and they were on my doorstep via Airborne Express on Saturday. Post back and let me know what you receive.


[Modified by mr.bouton, 4:48 PM 9/3/2002]

[Brian Tribble]

Mr. Bouton, you got the same set I got. Eibach part no. 8553.140. They are not the B5.5 part, but the B5 part. They may work, but they are different in size from the official VW B5.5 part (I had both side by side)

As you see from this German site, these are for Nov. 1996-to Nov '00 Passats:

8553.140 is for B5 (http://www.amb-tuning.de/produkte/federn/eibach/vw/passat.html)

They picked mine up with a call tag, and I spoke to them this morning, and they told me I was sent the right springs! I told them no, they are for pre-2001 passats, gave them the correct spring numbers, and told them to call Eibach if they have questions. I have not heard back from them today. They said they want to fix the problem, but they don't know what springs to send me! It seems this secondary source for the springs didn't have them marked correctly.

Others who have ordered: check the Eibach part number on the box. Keep in mind, these are NOT the official VW Sport Springs - they appear to be Eibach kits (they have Eibach part number not VW numbers on the box).

Impex appears to be helpful, but I'm not sure anyone there is certain what the correct part number is. Keep in mind, Impex claims to have received these springs from a supplier elsewhere - not VW. I suspect they are grey market springs from Germany, because the Eibach USA rep I talked to got pissed when I mention this situation with Impex.

[mr.bouton]

Thanks for the reply Brian. I've been checking out various pages in German and Finnish over the weekend and am going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif . http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

The kits are definitely coming from Germany (John at Impex told me) and that would be OK since the VW kits are Euro spec and not U.S. spec but isn't sending the right parts to the customers.

<![CDATA[Thanks for the reply Brian. I've been checking out various pages in German and Finnish over the weekend and am going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif . http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

The kits are definitely coming from Germany (John at Impex told me) and that would be OK since the VW kits are Euro spec and not U.S. spec but isn't sending the right parts to the customers.

[Modified by mr.bouton, 5:08 PM 9/3/2002]

[Bockster]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Bockster - you'll probably receive them today. I ordered last Thursday afternoon and they were on my doorstep via Airborne Express on Saturday. Post back and let me know what you receive.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will do, thanks! I'll check when I get home today, if they haven't arrived yet I'm sure I'll be getting them soon. Thanks again.

[Bockster]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>

On the Box -
VW Passat Lim
Teile-NR 3B0 071 676
8553.140

On the Rear Springs -
EW8553002HA

On the Front Springs -
EW1531001VA
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just got my package from Impex, and it looks like I got the wrong parts too! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif My part numbers are exactly the same as the ones you posted. Guess I'm gonna have to call Impex tomorrow...

[vwjedi]

I have the same part numbers and I DO have the wrong springs. I installed them a year ago when they didn't have the new springs yet. THis week I should be getting my new bilsteins shocks with new B5 pirches to correct the problem. Right now I am running the wrong springs on stock shocks. So, the front is about an inch higher than the rear.

Kevin

[mr.bouton]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
I just got my package from Impex, and it looks like I got the wrong parts too! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif My part numbers are exactly the same as the ones you posted. Guess I'm gonna have to call Impex tomorrow... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tell Impex that you've already spoken with Toby at Eibach and reiterate what he told me yesterday, that these are the wrong parts for the VW Sport Kit for a VW Passat with the 1.8T engine, manufactured after 12/00. John at Impex knows who Toby is since several people have gone through the same situation with him already. Impex should issue a call tag for their return, they don't give you a hard time.

I don't see any reason why another person should need to call and aggravate Toby some more. I think that he's more upset at the fact that the customers are having to deal with this mess and not the vendor who screwed up. Impex probably won't call them directly because they're not ordering from them directly. IMHO.

Btw, I noticed that Impex has removed the VW springs from their website. Glad to see they're trying to avoid additional mixups.

[Bockster]

Hey mr.bouton, just wanted to say thanks again! I spoke to John at Impex and he said he'll be sending me as call tag ASAP. Did you find the correct springs somewhere else?

[mr.bouton]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hey mr.bouton, just wanted to say thanks again! I spoke to John at Impex and he said he'll be sending me as call tag ASAP. Did you find the correct springs somewhere else?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good to hear that John took care of things for you too, he's a pretty nice guy to deal with. Unfortunately, he was stuck with somethings that were incorrectly stocked and then had to deal with the returns. At least he did it in a professional manner. UPS picked up my pkg yesterday, the day after the call tag was placed by Impex.

No, I haven't reordered the VW springs yet from another source. I may wait until after the winter to do so. I thought I was taking advantage of the Impex "weekly sale" but that's moot now. Here are some vendors that should have them discounted:

1stVWparts.com 888-528-5280 (Auburn, WA)
https://www.1stvwparts.com (http://https://www.1stvwparts.com)/
CB5 member Brian Tribble found them through http://www.parts.com and ordered through them. Cost $198 plus $10 shipping and he's confirmed that he got the right parts.

http://www.drew-auto.com/vw/
Drew Auto Center is a Club B5 sponsor/advertiser and offers 20% to Club B5 members (they're a VW dealership)

Dana Automotive 1-800-225-7250
Northhampton, MA
Ask for Paul in the parts dept. and mention Club B5.
Dealership that's Club B5 friendly and offers various discounts depending on the part

Liberty Imports 847-680-8000
Libertyville, IL
Ask for Rob or Rich in the parts dept. and mention Club B5
Dealership that's Club B5 friendly and offering a flat 15% above cost. Our own CB5 member "Blownaway" (Tim Hayes) is sales mgr. there.

Someone else had posted about another dealership in FL that was offering discounts to CB5 members so you might want to search the forums for that post.

Good luck and keep us posted on how things work out, if/when you get them.

[Bockster]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Good luck and keep us posted on how things work out, if/when you get them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will do, thanks for the help! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[Brian Tribble]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
1stVWparts.com 888-528-5280 (Auburn, WA)
https://www.1stvwparts.com (http://https://www.1stvwparts.com)/
CB5 member Brian Tribble found them through http://www.parts.com and ordered through them. Cost $198 plus $10 shipping and he's confirmed that he got the right parts. things work out, if/when you get them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, that's where I got mine. This is the website for Auburn Subaru-VW in Auburn, Whasington. They send the official VW sports springs. Great deal. You need to order through the parts.com website to get the discount:

Auburn VW (http://www.parts.com/index.cfm?action=goToStoreFront&sfid=213799)

Part number for B5.5 1.8t is 3B0071676ADSP. Search by part number. I got the springs quickly. Total price for me was $208, which is cheaper than the shox.com price for the Eibach Prokit of $213 (193 +20/shipping), and you get the approved VW part.

Broadway VW in Wisconsin also sells the part for $214 through the parts.com wesite, and they claim to have free shipping, so they are another alternative.

[Bockster]

Awesome, thanks Brian - did you get shocks as well?

<![CDATA[Awesome, thanks Brian - did you get shocks as well?

[Modified by Bockster, 2:01 PM 9/5/2002]

[Brian Tribble]

Yes, got my Eibach shocks from shox.com - they came yesterday. I'm hoping to do the install this weekend if possible.

[Bockster]

Cool, post pics when you're done! I'm about to place my order for the springs from the link you provided. I'm probably going to go with Bilstein shocks from http://www.parts4vws.com. Thanks again for the info.

[Festus]

Does anyone have part numbers for their springs for a pre 12-00 build date B5? The part numbers that I've got on my IMPEX set are:

EW1532001VA (Front)
EW8553002HA (Rear)

I was one of the first to talk to Toby at Eibach and he noted that for my car these should be the right numbers. But now that all of this talk about part numbers has got me a little spooked.

I see different numbers floating around on this thread causing my Maalox moment:

Torid110's Part #s
1541 001 VA (Front)
8553 202 HA (Rear)
-Rears seem to be consistant, but fronts different (because he has a B5.5?)

and Mr. Bouton's Part #s
front springs - EW 1541 001 VA
rear springs - EW 1558 202 HA
Completely different in all respects (what model B5/B5.5 do you have?)

Also Brian Tribble, what are the part numbers printed on your springs that you bought through the dealer?

I'm not too alarmed b/c Toby gave me the part numbers close, but just dont want $150 to go down the drain. Thanks

[Festus]

Just got an answer from Alex at AMB-Tuning in Germany per Brian Tribble's link. I asked him about the part numbers that I have in my box and he said that for my model these are the correct numbers for my model year, engine and transmission. For what it's worth.

[Brian Tribble]

Festus, here are the official B5.5 springs #s from VW:

Front: 1541 001 VA
Rear: 1558 202 HA

I actually ordered a set from Impex, and I was sent the wrong kit (they sent kit 8553.140, spec'd for a B5 1.8T). I placed the Impex from spring (1531001VA) side by side to the VW spring, and the Impex springs was 1/4" taller --- telling me the VW springs for the B5.5 is shorter to compensate for the high-vin issue.

Torrid's B5.5 rear spring--8553 202 HA, although different from my VW B5.5 spring (1558 202 HA) is also the correct part - it is the spring used in the Eibach spec, not VW spec, but Toby said they are the same springs rate, etc. Don't know why they have different springs for the same application, but it may have to do with the fact the VW springs supposedly come from German, while the Eibach kits are made in the Califonia factory.

Crazy, huh? If Toby approved your springs, I think you should take comfort. He seems to be the most knowleageable, and when I had him on the phone, he actaully pulled the design sheets for each springs and was comparing the springs rates, heights, etc. for each.

I do think that much of this is a tempest in a teapot. The differences between the B5.5 and B5 springs as best is a very minor deviation in spring rates (if any) and at best a 1/4" difference in spring height.

[mr.bouton]

I would definitely trust what Toby has told you. He's got all the correct information. The springs are definitely different between the B5 and the B5.5. Impex seems to have better luck with the B5 kits and not with the B5.5 kits.

The reason that there might be different variations of the "correct" part numbers even for the same model B5/B5.5 is because in Europe, Eibach has more front/back combinations for more variables than in the US for VW kits (body style, engine type, transmission type, with/without a/c).

To help you feel more at ease, here's some additional info that I found that will back-up what Toby said about your springs.

This page is from a Euro site (Finland) and has all the kit numbers and front/back spring numbers. Scroll down to the bottom of page 36 in the PDF and look at the section for the Passat 3B2. Look at the second item listed in that section (last item on that page):

http://prostreet.fi/hinnastot/eibach_prokit.pdf

Passat Sedan 1.8, 1.8T, V5, 4 cyl diesel, with a/c, with automatic
Mfg Dates 11/96-11/00
Spring Kit #8554140
Front Spring EW1531001VA
Rear Spring EW1532001HA

Don't worry if you have a/c and/or a 5-speed. The VW Sport Spring kits don't get that specific (just model year, body style & engine type)

Please note that these part numbers are for the <U>Euro</U> Eibach Pro-Kits which may not be the same as the VW Sport Spring Kits. We know that the Eibach <U>US</U> Pro-kits are not the same as the VW Sport Spring Kits. In any case, you have the right front and back springs for your specific application.

edit: Crossed post with you guys, took too long for me to type. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif There's weight difference of about 150-175 between a B5 and B5.5.


[Modified by mr.bouton, 9:35 AM 9/6/2002]

<![CDATA[I would definitely trust what Toby has told you. He's got all the correct information. The springs are definitely different between the B5 and the B5.5. Impex seems to have better luck with the B5 kits and not with the B5.5 kits.

The reason that there might be different variations of the "correct" part numbers even for the same model B5/B5.5 is because in Europe, Eibach has more front/back combinations for more variables than in the US for VW kits (body style, engine type, transmission type, with/without a/c).

To help you feel more at ease, here's some additional info that I found that will back-up what Toby said about your springs.

This page is from a Euro site (Finland) and has all the kit numbers and front/back spring numbers. Scroll down to the bottom of page 36 in the PDF and look at the section for the Passat 3B2. Look at the second item listed in that section (last item on that page):

http://prostreet.fi/hinnastot/eibach_prokit.pdf

Passat Sedan 1.8, 1.8T, V5, 4 cyl diesel, with a/c, with automatic
Mfg Dates 11/96-11/00
Spring Kit #8554140
Front Spring EW1531001VA
Rear Spring EW1532001HA

Don't worry if you have a/c and/or a 5-speed. The VW Sport Spring kits don't get that specific (just model year, body style & engine type)

Please note that these part numbers are for the <U>Euro</U> Eibach Pro-Kits which may not be the same as the VW Sport Spring Kits. We know that the Eibach <U>US</U> Pro-kits are not the same as the VW Sport Spring Kits. In any case, you have the right front and back springs for your specific application.

edit: Crossed post with you guys, took too long for me to type. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif There's weight difference of about 150-175 between a B5 and B5.5.


[Modified by mr.bouton, 9:35 AM 9/6/2002]

[Modified by mr.bouton, 9:38 AM 9/6/2002]

[Festus]

That Finland site's .pdf is something that should be posted permenantly on this site. A treasure trove of info. Thanks! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[Brian Tribble]

Excellent work, mr. bouton -- funny thing is, the B5.5 specs from Finland are slightly different from the B5.5 VW springs. Oh, well. I have a feeling there is really very little difference between these springs.

[mr.bouton]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Excellent work, mr. bouton -- funny thing is, the B5.5 specs from Finland are slightly different from the B5.5 VW springs. Oh, well. I have a feeling there is really very little difference between these springs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Slight differences can be expected between VW kit and Pro-kits (even the Euro models).

[mr.bouton]

If anyone's interested here's the PDF for the Pro Dampers (shocks):

http://prostreet.fi/hinnastot/eibach_prodamper.pdf

and Pro System:

http://prostreet.fi/hinnastot/eibach_prosystem.pdf

[Berto]

http://www.eibach.de/main.inc.php?SPA=1&C_lang=en&LID1=2&LID2=4&LID3=0&PRODSHOW=&LSTSHOW=1&MODSHOW=&hersteller=Volkswagen&prodart=ProKit&modell=Passat&modellName=Passat

[rsilk]

The chart from Eibach lists parts kits for cars:
without a/c and without auto
with a/c and with auto

I have a B5 wagon with a/c and without auto (i.e. manual 1.8T)
Which kit should I order?

/rs