[GB] wide-mirrors/in.pro chrome covers - news thread

[Scotaku]

Son of a... they're here. They're finally friggin' here! I will make myself post again once they're wrapped and ready to go in the morning mail

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Okay, they're all wrapped and sitting by the door to begin their journey to each of you. Check the last of the shots in my VW mirrors WebShots folder... hopefully that puts a smile on some faces. http://community.webshots.com/user/scotaku

I'll say what you're all thinking. This took too friggin' long.

I agree. I'd trade posts with people who are upset, but I don't think they'd be made any happier than when packages arrive later this week. I ask for understanding that, for lack of a better expression, siht happens. All my first checks were lost. Mike had his job to do. It added up to time spent waiting; ironically the thing I most wanted to avoid. I've got some credibility to earn back from you guys so I hope your seeing this is a start to that process.


<![CDATA[ Son of a... they're here. They're finally friggin' here! I will make myself post again once they're wrapped and ready to go in the morning mail

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Okay, they're all wrapped and sitting by the door to begin their journey to each of you. Check the last of the shots in my VW mirrors WebShots folder... hopefully that puts a smile on some faces. http://community.webshots.com/user/scotaku

I'll say what you're all thinking. This took too friggin' long.

I agree. I'd trade posts with people who are upset, but I don't think they'd be made any happier than when packages arrive later this week. I ask for understanding that, for lack of a better expression, siht happens. All my first checks were lost. Mike had his job to do. It added up to time spent waiting; ironically the thing I most wanted to avoid. I've got some credibility to earn back from you guys so I hope your seeing this is a start to that process.


[Modified by Scotaku, 4:36 PM 8/27/2002]

[orlangba]

Got the email. Thnx for update. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

[KatfishKatfish]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop John.

Have a martini on me http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

[Scotaku]

For Dalip's sake, there is no new news to report since the email on the 21st. To recap:

I expect the glass parts any day and will send them out to the just-glass buyers the following morning. There will be a post here when that happens as well as individual emails to those buyers to alert them of the mail carrier's precious cargo.

Mike is to follow up with the tuning shop this weekend to confirm that the in.pro parts will arrive within the three to four week window they said they needed (to expire on/about May 10th). Any significant delay beyond that and the order is canned. By significant I mean Monday or Tuesday is okay, Friday the 17th is not. The shop understands they will lose this sale if they haven't been upfront in how much time they needed.

I am confident the tuner will come through. I expect those parts will ship soon after they arrive at the shop and then be broken down into individual orders once they get to me. Same deal; they'll be in the morning mail, a post to the thread with the news, and individual emails will ring like bells to Pavlovian dogs. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

If we have to cancel the in.pros, all monies will be returned including any fees PayPal sapped us for. I'd rather pay you guys back and eat the fees myself than wait any longer. My reputation means more to me than chrome mirror covers. In that event there will also be an announcement on the thread, individual emails, and refunds returned via the same media they were paid.

I've tried to be prepared for any eventual outcome bad or good and think I've got the bases well covered. As always, if anyone needs a refund there will be no questions asked.

[EDIT] I'm going to be meeting jwil and FlyinVR6 this Sunday at the Club H2O Detailing Workshop up in Long Island. There's a thread on the Events/Gatherings forum... If anyone else would like to hook up, particularly from this buy, I'd really enjoy meeting some of you!

<![CDATA[For Dalip's sake, there is no new news to report since the email on the 21st. To recap:

I expect the glass parts any day and will send them out to the just-glass buyers the following morning. There will be a post here when that happens as well as individual emails to those buyers to alert them of the mail carrier's precious cargo.

Mike is to follow up with the tuning shop this weekend to confirm that the in.pro parts will arrive within the three to four week window they said they needed (to expire on/about May 10th). Any significant delay beyond that and the order is canned. By significant I mean Monday or Tuesday is okay, Friday the 17th is not. The shop understands they will lose this sale if they haven't been upfront in how much time they needed.

I am confident the tuner will come through. I expect those parts will ship soon after they arrive at the shop and then be broken down into individual orders once they get to me. Same deal; they'll be in the morning mail, a post to the thread with the news, and individual emails will ring like bells to Pavlovian dogs. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

If we have to cancel the in.pros, all monies will be returned including any fees PayPal sapped us for. I'd rather pay you guys back and eat the fees myself than wait any longer. My reputation means more to me than chrome mirror covers. In that event there will also be an announcement on the thread, individual emails, and refunds returned via the same media they were paid.

I've tried to be prepared for any eventual outcome bad or good and think I've got the bases well covered. As always, if anyone needs a refund there will be no questions asked.

[EDIT] I'm going to be meeting jwil and FlyinVR6 this Sunday at the Club H2O Detailing Workshop up in Long Island. There's a thread on the Events/Gatherings forum... If anyone else would like to hook up, particularly from this buy, I'd really enjoy meeting some of you!

[Modified by Scotaku, 5:58 AM 4/25/2002]

[Scotaku]

As much as I want to post something new, there's no news yet. Perhaps when I get home from work this afternoon there will be a surprise package waiting. The again, is it really a surprise if I'm expecting it? :rolleyes:

I miss the :rolleyes:

[atomicalex]

Are they there yet?? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif I'm waiting for my http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emgift.gif!

[Soon2bBad]

Hey Sco thanks for the info on the GB. I am anxiously awaiting these things from across the pond!!!! Anyone here going to the GTG at high point on the 19th of may?!?!? We need to represent!!

-Dalip-

[Scotaku]

Minor news... I got my signature return receipt back in the mail yesterday. I was a little concerned that it seemed to have taken so long but now I know for sure that the check is there.

I've got a prior commitment to a scavenger hunt rally being hosted by the Porsche Club on the 19th. Otherwise, Highpoint sounds fun too. Who's going to Waterfest?

[Scotaku]

I am not pleased to be sending this update this evening.

I've received word back from Mike (who's been on a two week duty in Czechoslovakia) that the tuner can't fill out order for the in.pros until the week of the 20-26th; two full weeks beyond his original two to four week promise.

I'll be on vacation the week following... I cannot tolerate any further delay while your money is out of your hands. I've instructed Mike to cancel the in.pros and to tell the tuner he's lost the sale because he was not honest/realistic in his estimation of delivery. I've also asked Mike to send a check back to me which I will be funding refunds from as soon as possible.

The mirror glass will be delivered as soon as possible. They should be in the tomorrow's mail now that Mike is back in Germany.

I know this is not the news people want to read. As before, my reputation means more to me than mere chrome mirror covers. Each of you who ordered the in.pros will receive full refunds regardless of any PayPal fee you may have had to accept to send me your payments. I feel that is the only respectable response having made you wait so long.

[crew217]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I am not pleased to be sending this update this evening.

I've received word back from Mike (who's been on a two week duty in Czechoslovakia) that the tuner can't fill out order for the in.pros until the week of the 20-26th; two full weeks beyond his original two to four week promise.

I'll be on vacation the week following... I cannot tolerate any further delay while your money is out of your hands. I've instructed Mike to cancel the in.pros and to tell the tuner he's lost the sale because he was not honest/realistic in his estimation of delivery. I've also asked Mike to send a check back to me which I will be funding refunds from as soon as possible.

The mirror glass will be delivered as soon as possible. They should be in the tomorrow's mail now that Mike is back in Germany.

I know this is not the news people want to read. As before, my reputation means more to me than mere chrome mirror covers. Each of you who ordered the in.pros will receive full refunds regardless of any PayPal fee you may have had to accept to send me your payments. I feel that is the only respectable response having made you wait so long.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um why don't you wait a bit and see if ppl want to wait for these? Perhaps some people will want to jump in on this buy and can fill in the spots for the people who want to back out. I would at least give the participants the option of still getting these mirror covers at a heavily discounted price.

Dave

[chrome007]

If it's not too much trouble, I can wait for a couple more weeks. I've got a bunch of other mods to wait for anyway. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[Boris]

I'll wait.

[JODZ]

I can wait too.

[PassatMike]

I am willing to wait also. i have waited this long what is a couple more weeks i got many mod to do so until they come. so i will wait longer. so what, but my car will look sweet when i do get them put on though. john i hope you don't cancel the order. just wait and see if any other people will wait any longer

[Scotaku]

The trouble with waiting is that I'll be on vacation starting the 28th. Even if I believe the tuner will come through after another delay, I won't be able to send anything out until June 5th at the very earliest. I'm already nervous with the amount of cash that has changed hands. Remember, Mike has to pick the stuff up and then send it off to me before it gets to you.

I'm willing to put this back to the tuner and insist he's got one more week (to meet his original date). Beyond that, I would sincerely prefer to send you guys your money and be done with it. I'd rather not have this group buy go down in history as another custom emblem, Mann filter, Chinese headlight buy. I'll have Mike hold off for now until more people chime in.

[EDIT] I've asked Mike to rign in on the subject as he's been the one going toe to toe with the tuner (say that five times fast!). The tuner said two to four weeks and now wants another three weeks... for that extra wait I think he should ship to for free. We have to push back or follow through with bagging the order. Even if he ships for free on the 26th, I'll be on vacation May 28th through June 4th.

At some point, this has to come to a close, good or bad. Even though I'm against a longer wait, the 26th has to be the absolute last day. It's simply a matter of the tuner being up front when he says he can fill an order... it's already looking like he was telling stories when he said May 10th. We've already ponied up the cash. The tuner needs to do something to show he's serious about completing the sale.

Since Mike was away, the glass pieces have not shipped. Mike says he's picking them up today and will be sending them out. I'll ask himfor a tracking number if he's able to send them that way so I can anticipate them at home.

<![CDATA[The trouble with waiting is that I'll be on vacation starting the 28th. Even if I believe the tuner will come through after another delay, I won't be able to send anything out until June 5th at the very earliest. I'm already nervous with the amount of cash that has changed hands. Remember, Mike has to pick the stuff up and then send it off to me before it gets to you.

I'm willing to put this back to the tuner and insist he's got one more week (to meet his original date). Beyond that, I would sincerely prefer to send you guys your money and be done with it. I'd rather not have this group buy go down in history as another custom emblem, Mann filter, Chinese headlight buy. I'll have Mike hold off for now until more people chime in.

[EDIT] I've asked Mike to rign in on the subject as he's been the one going toe to toe with the tuner (say that five times fast!). The tuner said two to four weeks and now wants another three weeks... for that extra wait I think he should ship to for free. We have to push back or follow through with bagging the order. Even if he ships for free on the 26th, I'll be on vacation May 28th through June 4th.

At some point, this has to come to a close, good or bad. Even though I'm against a longer wait, the 26th has to be the absolute last day. It's simply a matter of the tuner being up front when he says he can fill an order... it's already looking like he was telling stories when he said May 10th. We've already ponied up the cash. The tuner needs to do something to show he's serious about completing the sale.

Since Mike was away, the glass pieces have not shipped. Mike says he's picking them up today and will be sending them out. I'll ask himfor a tracking number if he's able to send them that way so I can anticipate them at home.

[Modified by Scotaku, 4:42 AM 5/7/2002]

[aldolicious77]

no rush for me....its not that much money anyways...so no rush as long as we get it http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

[bulliboy]

I appreciate your predicament. I really want the covers for my ride and at the price we’ve been promised by the tuner, am willing to wait for a while longer. That said, a good deal should not come at the expense of good, honest service. I guess there may be cultural differences in the way we see business transactions, but it seems like these folks should at least provide some additional break for the missed delivery date. This is a sizeable order, and from the some of the posts I’ve seen on the board here, could be repeated in the not too distant future if the supplier proves credible.

You guys have both acted in good faith, kept all of us well informed and earned my trust. However, if you are uncomfortable with any of this, it’s not right for me to impose on you simply so I can save a few bucks. Your carma http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif is good with me, so do what’s right for you.

I’m on vacation myself the week of June 10th, and from my prospective the money’s already spent, so I’m quite happy to let you sit on my small slice of the cash for the time being while we see how this plays out.

Once again, thank you both very much for the effort you’ve put into this.
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[orlangba]

Darn suppliers http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif Verdamnt noch mal

Sco, you've done all the hard work already. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif
I'll wait - you and Mike invested a lot of time in this already, plus I've forggotten about my money - it's gone. A lot of members are willing to wait, please give the supplier another 2 or 3 weeks.

I'll even wait after your vacation, Sco. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

<![CDATA[Darn suppliers http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif Verdamnt noch mal

Sco, you've done all the hard work already. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif
I'll wait - you and Mike invested a lot of time in this already, plus I've forggotten about my money - it's gone. A lot of members are willing to wait, please give the supplier another 2 or 3 weeks.

I'll even wait after your vacation, Sco. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

[Modified by orlangba, 6:51 AM 5/7/2002]

[big byrd]

I don't mind the wait if you don't mind the wait. That said, what's another couple weeks, for me, the moneys spent, so its no rush. As long as they are able to provide them before the big huge, I can wait.

And again, Sco, thanks for putting this together. If you don't want to wait, I will understand. You have been up front and honest for the entire group buy, wish I could say the same for that tuner who would be providing us the parts. And again I am willing to wait.

OT: Sco, are you or anyone else from the Baltimore area comming to the big huge?

big byrd

[KatfishKatfish]

Damn suppliers is right! I deal with automotive suppliers all day long and you always need to multiply what they tell you by 6. "Sure, we'll have your parts for you in 2 hours" translation 12 hours It's the same all over the world. I'm not suprised and I'll wait as well. I forgot about the money too so it's no big deal, as long as i have it by waterfest.
Thanks again for being so upfront about this Sco. It is greatly appreciated. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

[tikiking]

I can wait too....but I agree that the end of May should be the drop-dead date!

[jwil]

Hey John, I don't have a problem with the wait either. Personally, given the price we are paying for these parts, I'll wait as long as it takes. But I think that your date of the 26th is fair. Are there any other tuners that could supply the parts at the same price?

[Scotaku]

Alright, alright... I will wait along with those who've said they are willing too.

As always, anyone who does not want to wait may request a full refund, no questions asked.

I'll ask in advance that anyone who didn't get in on the original buy not email me asking to slide into any positions that have been backed out of. If I end up with extra parts, I will post them in the Classifieds forum after I've got them and there is no question on where they might be. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif

You guys have bowled me over with your support. When I got the word last evening, I almost swallowed my own teeth. I believe upfront communication is key to making a group buy work, even if it doesn't pan out on the end... the examples I gave all seemed to be marked by a disappearance of the guy starting the buy. I'm not going to let that happen no matter what the outcome.

[Juschillin1.8T]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> You guys have bowled me over with your support. When I got the word last evening, I almost swallowed my own teeth. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dayum Sco... aren't you a little young to be having dentures http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/eek.gif Seems like you need some of that industrial strength glue or sumthin' http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif

On the real side bro, your credibility is outstanding with me. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif And from the posts I've seen from the other club members I think they would second, third etc. that sentiment. You've kept all the participants in the loop, and thats all any sane person can expect.

Gimme a holla when you get a chance, their might be some goodies at Russel for ya...

Peace,
Mike

[marf34]

I'm willing too wait also. and thanks for keeping us in the loop and being honest.

[DruggedPassat]

Hey Scott,
I understand your predicament and understand your reputation is worth more than some nice mirrors--granted they are very nice mirrors. However, noone will slam you because you have been straightforward and very upfront with all your dealings. I hope every group buy I participate in goes as well as this one or is as orchestrated as well-sure maybe we wont get the covers but I can never say I was out of the loop or I was sent for a ride. I am willing to wait for the mirrors and whenever you want to pull out of the deal, Its okay by me, Thanks for all your hard work. Thanks to Mike as well

DruggedPAssat

[Homan]

big byrd-

Glad to see you're back on. Hopefully your PC is up and running again. I left you a voice mail message last week regarding this GB...did you get it?

Homan

[KatfishKatfish]

I just like to see this thread near the top. It's Friday woo-hoo!! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

[Scotaku]

New info... up top this time since now I know how to edit posts! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif

[orlangba]

Now I can wait til next year http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

Wunderbar http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

Thnx for the update, Sco http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[jwil]

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[Tiptronic]

I'm sorry to come-in this thread kinda late -- but are you guys talking about the
Chrome Side Mirrors (a la S8/S4)? I was actually thinking of purchasing them
at Tuning Zubehor (They're located in Simi Valley Ca- 5 minute drive from my house) I think I've seen them sell theirs for $120.00

Erick http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif

[duboholic]

Those are what we're waiting on, but we got them for $60. This GB also included the blue tinted split glass wide angle mirrors that usually go for $50. We got those for $30. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

[VW'ed]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Happy news! I spoke with Mike last night who is home again and has picked up our mirrors! They are in the mail to me even as I type! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif There will be a posting here and individual emails to all those who ordered glass. (sigh)

More news... 'seems it was not the tuner yanking our cord, but in.pro themselves. Mike assured me he showed the tuner our cash and heard him on the phone placing the order; even heard him get the quanities and sizes correct. It was in.pro who issued the first delivery date and then the later date we're now waiting on when Mike went back to confirm.

That kinda explains why the parts are backordered through the retailers here in the 'States... in.pro is backed up delivering them to the retailers all over. It is in.pro that says the week of the 20-26th. Having this knowledge makes me more willing to wait, but again not too long.

Thanks again to all you guys for your patience. I'm writing a memoir of the experience!


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[kirkchen1]

AM I too late?? is there still have Group buy???

[jwil]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>AM I too late?? is there still have Group buy???
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup. You can still get them from Parts4vws.com though.

[atomicalex]

ETA on the glass? I can't stand the waiting for my http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emgift.gif !

[Scotaku]

They are en route to me right this moment! :D

Add two days (roughly) to the day they get here and they're in your mailbox.

[KatfishKatfish]

TTT
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[Martz]

Scott-Thanx for the updates & all your efforts!!

Martz http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/b5.jpg

[Scotaku]

I expect the mirror glass any/every day this week. I've got spare cardboard and tape waiting to protect and repack each of the orders as well as shipping labels ready to roll. I won't be certain but I think these will slip in under the USPS 3lb first class for $3.50 rule... I hope I didn't just jinx us!

We're one day into in.pro's promised delivery week. Hopefully Mike will be getting a call from the tuner to come get our parts! Those will almost certainly burst the 3lb rule but I'll try to get a rough postage cost from the USPS when the glass packages go out. Maybe I'll pop mine off for practice and have them weighed in advance?

I drifted through the Audi dealership this morning picking up a new TT DV... they had an S6 Avant on the lot. The polished mirrors really look spectacular!

- Sco

[orlangba]

Thanks for the tiny update. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

Can't wait for those mirrors.

[Scotaku]

tiny argh... read the top http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif

[orlangba]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>tiny argh... read the top http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the GIANT http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif update, Sco.

Should have read the top. I need a http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif and a http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

[bulliboy]

So Sco, are the left hand units wide angle like our stock right hand ones (...closer than they appear), or are they the combo flat with wide angle on the outside edge?

Honestly I may bag on the glass, I really wanted the blue. If I do however, I do NOT want you to send me a refund until you've been reimbursed and I also expect you to deduct whatever handeling charges you've incurred. I've got to keep my karma right, so you can't absorb any out of pocket expenses on my behalf.

For the billionth time, Thanks. I owe you guys many beers http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif

[jwil]

Part numbers:

1J1857521C (drivers side)
1J2857522C (175mm passengers side)

The are Audi parts, not VW, but they fit our cars. I don't have a part number for the smaller passengers side mirror. These are OE blue tinted, split aspherical, glass pieces. HTH.

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[Scotaku]

The left-hand pieces are indeed the wide-angle ones like this: (thanks in advance, stragazer)

http://www.b5glx.com/ver2/IMAGES/aspherical.jpg

I'm going to triple-check the part numbers having seen stargazer's citation...

The right-hand pieces are plain with a light smoked tint to them just like the left side. I'll have to compare them to the original mirror on my car to see if they zoom the reflected image... I forgot to comment that they do not have the "Objects in mirror..." printed on them, large or small.

I'll take some pics this afternoon and add them to this thread.

[Eiki]

I'm in the same position like bulliboy. I really wanted the blue tinted, too. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif

I really hate to ask for a refund after all your trouble to setup this GB. Is there any other way to fix the problem?

[Scotaku]

Not so tiny update at the top... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

[chrome007]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Not so tiny update at the top... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sweetness! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

Good job, John and Mike! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

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Sweetness! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

Good job, John and Mike! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[Modified by chrome007, 3:13 PM 5/22/2002]

[jwil]

:Dammit I need a dancing smiley: http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

I'm a patient man, John, I'll wait for the blue glass for my Blau Panzer.

BTW, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[PhatRabbitzz]

Wait, so whatz the difference between the right mirror that u got us and the right mirror that come bone stock on our cars?.....coz if u dont have a right aspherical mirror....then is the only difference is that on the stock it says "object are closer then..." and what u have says nothin?......did i get this right? if not please correct me.. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

[Scotaku]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Wait, so whatz the difference between the right mirror that u got us and the right mirror that come bone stock on our cars?.....coz if u dont have a right aspherical mirror....then is the only difference is that on the stock it says "object are closer then..." and what u have says nothin?......did i get this right? if not please correct me.. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you got it right... I need to get some snaps and compare them. Mike will be checking to see if we can exchange these smoked ones for the blue ones we want. Think good thoughts!

[big byrd]

I'm excited all over again http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

big byrd

[Scotaku]

A little more news and a link to some pics at the top...

[Scotaku]

For bulliboy and eiki, I realize I didn't really answer you guys directly... my apologies...

If Mike gets word from the dealer that they won't exchange the glass, I'll eat them for you since they're not what you want. Same goes for anyone else who really prefers the blue ones too. Not sure what I'll do with 'em (credit at the VW Parts counter http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif ?) but I won't make you guys take 'em when they aren't what you were expecting.

Having taken pics of the glass side by side, the smoke tinting is very very light... almost matches the original glass. You can see the color of my interior reflected in each of them (nice and sunny today) and there is little to no reduction in the glare. Kinda emphasizes my wish for the blue ones!

[silverbullet1]

i really wanted the blue mirrors also, and wanted both sides to be aspherical. they should take the glass back. i will be looking forward to to my big/small in.pro covers however.

[PhatRabbitzz]

I dont really care about wether its blue or not......BUT i kinda wanted them both aspherical....... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif

[Scotaku]

I feel ya, guys... Mike knows the wall I'm up against and will get to the dealer asap. Best case scenario is I return the glass today or tomorrow while the post office is open and we get them exchanged while I'm away on vacation. Next best, I repackage them and have my neighbor send it out Tuesday after I've left. (Monday is a holiday and my flight is at 0830 on Tuesday!)

Worst case is already in effect: if the dealer won't exchange the glass, you'll be seeing me on eBay! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif I won't force any of you to take these glasses when you really wanted the blue ones and refunds will be issued right away. -If- it comes to that, you'll each have the option of taking the ones we got or I'll buy 'em off you. Just keep sending those good vibes east towards Germany!

I'm leaving word with my postal carrier and my neighbor that I expect some big cartons soon with the in.pros inside and probably while I'm away. She's a really cool lady... I'm sure she can help us out and have them set aside or delivered to my upstairs buddy. With my luck my PlayStation 2 Linux kit will arrive while I'm gone too! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

<![CDATA[I feel ya, guys... Mike knows the wall I'm up against and will get to the dealer asap. Best case scenario is I return the glass today or tomorrow while the post office is open and we get them exchanged while I'm away on vacation. Next best, I repackage them and have my neighbor send it out Tuesday after I've left. (Monday is a holiday and my flight is at 0830 on Tuesday!)

Worst case is already in effect: if the dealer won't exchange the glass, you'll be seeing me on eBay! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif I won't force any of you to take these glasses when you really wanted the blue ones and refunds will be issued right away. -If- it comes to that, you'll each have the option of taking the ones we got or I'll buy 'em off you. Just keep sending those good vibes east towards Germany!

I'm leaving word with my postal carrier and my neighbor that I expect some big cartons soon with the in.pros inside and probably while I'm away. She's a really cool lady... I'm sure she can help us out and have them set aside or delivered to my upstairs buddy. With my luck my PlayStation 2 Linux kit will arrive while I'm gone too! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[Modified by Scotaku, 4:01 AM 5/24/2002]

[PhatRabbitzz]

Dont get me wrong I appreciate all that ur doing, and i bet this turned out to a bigger hastle then u expected....I personally dont care if it has the blue tint or not, but I will appreciate it if u exchange what passanger mirrors you have so we can get aspherical mirrors on the passanger side aswell. If this is not possible and all you have is aspherical driver side and normal passanger side then I dont want to hastle u even more by buying it from me, after all u didnt know that this is going to happen. So i'll just take the mirrors and u keep my money. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[bulliboy]

Yea, if it's a choice between my takin' delivery of these mirrors and Sco eating the costs, I'll take the glass. I'm sure I can move them localy somewhere. I'm more concerned about this not turning sour for the guys who've done all the work on it than I am about a few bucks. Really, the glass was secondary for me, it's the covers I'm really waiting for, so what the hell, I can still put a cool euro driver side mirror on.

John, Mike - now for the "can ya feel the love" post script. Thanks.

[vw18t]

So as a clarification for me. These mirrors are not blue at all, but they are a light smoke tint. With the Driver side being the only aspherical mirror while the Passenge side is the plain one?

[Scotaku]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>So as a clarification for me. These mirrors are not blue at all, but they are a light smoke tint. With the Driver side being the only aspherical mirror while the Passenge side is the plain one?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep... that's about the size of it. [/Mary Poppins]

Hopefully Mike's dealer is a good sport about it and will exchange them though I'll have to mail them back. We've got the specific part numbers for the blue, wide-angle mirrors now which should help a great deal... I wish I'd known that beforehand but I chalk it up to another learning experience such as the PayPal fees.

Kent et al, don't worry about me getting soaked for the wrong mirrors. I would not have started this buy (or cut it off when I did) if I could not afford to purchase all of the parts myself and then resell them. There was an upper limit I really didn't think we'd reach but that was dictated by my ability to pay for and comfort level in ordering so many pieces. I originally thought it might be tough to get 10 people interested!

When the cieling was shattered, I cut the orders off... but it was all within limits that wouldn't bankrupt me! I had you guys prepay soon after so that we could order in confidence and weed out the wannabes. To my delight, all but one payment was made and that one order got burn-bagged. Two orders have since been rotated to other buyers because guys needed their money back. Those were refunded immediately and, with no complaints, I think those guys were kept happy. That's my goal: keep you guys happy!

[vw18t]

Sounds good for me. I personally would like a driver and passenger blue, wide-angle mirrors as I currently have the blue Jetta mirrors on my car.

Do you have an ETA on when they can get exchanged and have the new parts shipped out to you?

Thanks for the hard work on this! We do appreciate it.

[Scotaku]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Do you have an ETA on when they can get exchanged and have the new parts shipped out to you?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

(fingers crossed) Mike is a good six hours ahead of me on the east coast. I'm hoping he's had time to visit/call the dealership and request an exchange. If they're ok with it and Mike can get me word later today or before the postoffice closes tomorrow, the wrong ones will be in the mail back to Germany.

If that comes to pass, my thoughts are that they'll arrive, be exchanged, and the blue ones will be sent back to me all while I'm away in Mexico. It all hinges on the dealer's level of coolness after the sale...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Thanks for the hard work on this! We do appreciate it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I appreciate you guys being so supportive and patient through the process. We've crossed some real rivers over the course of this buy... you guys deserve some credit to for keeping it alive when I thought the obstacles and the waiting were too much. I think it's paying off though!

[PhatRabbitzz]

So whats up with the mirrors now? are we gonna get them exchanged for both aspherical and blue tinted or are we gonna get the slightly smoked and passanger side normal mirror?

p.s: just for the record, im leaving for vacation on June 29th and im not comming back untill Aug. 5th, but hopefully i'll have the goods by then......**crossing my fingers** http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

[Scotaku]

Wlp, it's Sunday and no word from Mike yet. I will box up the mirrors and address the package back to Mike -just-in-case-... If I do get word, I'll have my neighbor send the box back on Tuesday when the post office opens again.

Again, if we can't exchange them, I'll give you guys the option of accepting what we got or a full refund; I won't make you take them off my hands. Check the link to the pics I put in the opening post of the thread to see what they look like compared to stock... very similar tinting.

There will be Internet access on the island I'm visiting (but you still can't drink the water!). I'll try to check in once or twice to stay in touch. 10 pesos buys you 20 minutes, but it may be dialup... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

[Scotaku]

The mirrors stay here for the moment; nothing yet from the dealer. I expect the in.pros to arrive while I'm away and have made arrangements to have them picked up. Yes, there is Internet on the island but it's not going to be a priortiy to me... you will hear from me again on the 5th at the very latest.

In the meantime, be good to one another.

[JODZ]

5th of June? Just wondering when we can expect to get the mirror housings. Thanks for ant update, Michael

[JODZ]

ttt

[JODZ]

ttt

[PanaSSat24]

ttt http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[JROO-VW]

Scott..

since you've been in contact with inPro...

- what is the part # for the chrome mirror housing cover (for B5.5 mirrors)
- how long did it take to order...

I've tried to email them directly but no response ... looking to buy the B5.5 mirror covers...

thanks

Justin

[atomicalex]

ttt http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emlove.gif

[Scotaku]

I'm home, reluctantly. Isla Mujeres was fantastic!

News up top...

For you, JROO-VW... the catalog numbers are:
5144 large
5145 small

For your B5.5, you want the large set. The small set is for 98's and early 99's with a 135mm passenger side mirror. It took a good month and a half to fill the order, and that was from within Germany. I'd emailed them directly before as well but have never rx'd a reply. It's good to have friends in other countries!

And get my name right! It's...

[jwil]

Welcome back! Glad to hear you had a good time during your run for the border, I certainly hope you brought back some good Anejo tequila and Cuban cigars.

[JROO-VW]

thanks for the info Sco... I'm going to try and order them from the website.. hope it works!

[JROO-VW]

Sco...

well I found out that they don't ship to just anyone... has to be a business (namely a company)... I'm curious if your contact can still order them even if at full price?

and I'd pay for a quick ship... since its only one item.

thanks for any help

[Michael's Passat]

Sco,
Glad that you made it back and had a wonderful time as well. i also glad to hear that our mirror housing have made it safely, cant wait to get them. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

thanks again for all the hard work that you and mike did to keep this GB going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[PassatMike]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Sco,
Glad that you made it back and had a wonderful time as well. i also glad to hear that our mirror housing have made it safely, cant wait to get them. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

thanks again for all the hard work that you and mike did to keep this GB going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Scotaku]

(As seen on a bathroom wall) For a good time, read the top post.

[orlangba]

Thanks, Sco. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif Please drop me an email, I'm trying to reach you regarding the letters. Also, I can't see the picture, please send me a link.

[tikiking]

Excellent news, Sco!! Thanks for keeping this rolling so smoothly.

[PassatMike]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Excellent news, Sco!! Thanks for keeping this rolling so smoothly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[PanaSSat24]

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif

[Boris]

Thanks.

[B5V]

Sco, I rate you http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/star.gifhttp://images.zeroforum.com/smile/star.gifhttp://images.zeroforum.com/smile/star.gifhttp://images.zeroforum.com/smile/star.gifhttp://images.zeroforum.com/smile/star.gif for setting up this gb! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[KatfishKatfish]

Hey Scott,

I just want to make sure that you've got me down for these things. I didn't see my name and I deleted the invoice you sent. I had the covers and a drivers side mirror. Thanks
ZAck

[Soul Hunter]

Since I missed the GB, can someone point me to a site where I can order a set myself? I'm interested in the covers only.

Regards http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[big byrd]

http://www.parts4vws.com/catalog/product_detail.asp?PartNumber=5144
Check that link for the mirror covers.
I also think Tuning Zubehor sells them as well as rapid parts.

big byrd

[Scotaku]

Byrd got it right, but expect to pay a premium (hehehe)... sorry, couldn't resist.

Zack, of course you're on the list bud! Unless there's another orange slip waiting for me today, I'm going to average the costs thus far and post this afternoon or this evening... shipping has been -far- less than anticipated. Everyone is getting some money back with their stuff.

Meanwhile, no news on swapping the glass yet... http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

[KatfishKatfish]

Thanks!
I lose track of things a lot.

You Rock!!!!

[Scotaku]

Brief accounting statement above... call me Uncle Sam and it's Tax Refund Day all over again. We got one helluva price on the in.pros!

[tikiking]

Sco,

More great news! Please keep $5 out of my refund for yourself. I believe in paying for a job well done, and believe me, you've earned it. Maybe if a few more happy GB-ers kick in a little something your own set will be covered!

Thanks again.... http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif

[aldolicious77]

can you list the people, who you sent out the in.pro too....thanks .

[Scotaku]

The lucky first ten are listed in the first post, Aldolicious... did you not notice your name there? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

[aldolicious77]

oops sorry.....i'm so excited....we should have a GTG for the install....anyone around the NY area getting the in pros?

<![CDATA[oops sorry.....i'm so excited....we should have a GTG for the install....anyone around the NY area getting the in pros?

[Modified by aldolicious77, 1:34 PM 6/8/2002]

[KatfishKatfish]

What exactly is involved in the install?
I have a feeling I might be punching myself in the mouth a lot when I get these.
Oh yeah- Sco- Keep 5 for the troubles from me too. Seeing as how you've got some turtles to pay for http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

-ZAck

[Scotaku]

I'm going to suggest an install thread with some pics once you guys begin to receive your houses. I'd start it myself, but I'm not taking delivery of my parts until you guys get yours! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

I've got some bad news on the mirror glass though... I'll add that to the top.

[aldolicious77]

i just recieved the covers today .....gonna install them ..and post pics asap

[aldolicious77]

so how do u ddo this install...u take out the plastic cap..then stick in a screw driver then twist out the cover...its doesnt seem to budge the original cover...how did everyone else do it?

[JODZ]

Sco, how much was the glass? Maybe I'll take a set off your hands, that is if anyone backs out of their originl order. I hate to see you get stuck trying to off load this stuff, especially after seeing how much time and effort you guys put into this. besides even though the glass is not the blue tint, it is tinted somewhat right? let me know. Michael

[PhatRabbitzz]

so whatz the news with the glass? when are we getting them? are they being replaced? is that even an option? im just wonderin whatz goin on......hehe http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[jwil]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>so whatz the news with the glass? when are we getting them? are they being replaced? is that even an option? im just wonderin whatz goin on......hehe http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look at the first post.

[VW'ed]

^

<![CDATA[^

[Modified by VW'ed, 10:38 PM 6/10/2002]

[Scotaku]

I've opened up a new thread for installation discussion over in the General B5 Discussion forum... that'll let us keep this thread on the subject of the buy itself as it comes to a close. Thanks guys!

http://clubb5.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=15055

[orlangba]

Received my mirror housings yesterday. They look awesome - Thanks Sco and Mike. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif My car is in for body work. I will have mine installed next week. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/b5.jpg

[PhatRabbitzz]

hey sco, i just want to inform u that i am leaving soon i need something by june 25th, if u can get an aspherical mirror for the right hand side it'll be great, i dont care if its smoked or blue, if not then just send me what u have.....sorry for rushing this all, but i am giving u roughly 13 more days, its just that i wont be here after that date.
Thanks again for arranging this GB man, and congrats on ur wedding man http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif
J

[Scotaku]

Mild update up top... bolded this time to make it easy to find. I'mma gonna lern me this cornputer thang wunna theez dayz!

[Scotaku]

Jacob, we were thinking the same thing I suppose! Please check the email I sent this morning outlining where we stand with the glass and let me know your choice. Thanks for the heads up.

[tikiking]

Mine showed up in great shape. Thanks again, Sco. Took less than half an hour to install.



<![CDATA[Mine showed up in great shape. Thanks again, Sco. Took less than half an hour to install.



[Modified by tikiking, 7:23 AM 6/12/2002]

[B5V]

I'm reely http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif when it was on my doorstep last Monday...Will install them this weekend.

You rock, John! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[Scotaku]

Takes some pics and post 'em on the install thread, guys! I haven't taken a set for myself yet to make sure you guys get yours first. So I'm itching to see them on your cars! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[silverbullet1]

sco,
thinks for all you've done. i believe my covers came,(i'm out of town, wife said i have a package). seeing as though i already have a non tinted aspherical driver mirror, i really have no use for the ones you received. i'd take a refund if possible. also, i'd like to at least pay for the shipping cost of the mirrors. i'm sure someone will want them.

[Scotaku]

Looks like the last box has arrived... minor update up top.

Ladies and gentlemen, the captain has illuminated the 'Fasten Seat Belt' sign in preparation for landing. At this time we'd like to ask all passengers to return to your seats, store your tray tables, and place your seats in the upright position. We will be on the ground shortly. Please note at this time, all personal mods to your car must be turned off for the remainder of the flight. Thank you for flying Scotaku Group Buys."

[JODZ]

Scotaku, any word on if you'll have extra glass? I asked about a week ago and no reply. Thanks, Michael

[Scotaku]

Drop me an email, Mike... I do have some extra glass and I'll let it go for the same price the others have paid. That'll save me a few bucks too! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

[firewalker98]

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif Sco and Mike http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif , Thanks for all your hard work on this GB. Finally got by the post office to pick my mirrors up yesterday. I put them on this morning in about 20 minutes and they tie in with the chrome strips on the B5.5 perfectly. I really like the new look but I can't take any pictures until the car gets a bath.

[JROO-VW]

Sco...

Can you see if your german contact can still order the inPro mirror covers... (at full price)... I would appreciate it...

would like to get them for Waterfest if possible.

thanks

Justin

[Scotaku]

I'm going to defer you right to 'im, JROO. Mike's email is in his bio: michael_e@hotmail.com
Introduce yourself, let him know how you heard of the buy, and politely ask if he'll help you out. He's a cool guy with a tough job! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

Another update up top, guys!

[jwil]

Soooooooo....who are the lucky six in this shipment? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif

[jarovw]

WooHoo!!! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/eek.gif I got my covers today!!!

Finally http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/b5.jpg

[Martz]

Sco-
I just rec'd the mirror covers & they look great. I want to thank you for all your hard work on this GB. Judging from your packaging they could have been thrown across the pond and still would have survived http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif
Thanks again guy! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif

[KatfishKatfish]

I was so stoked to see an little brown package waiting for me when I got home from work today. So i cleaned up the dog poop and realized my mirrors were here too!! Pretty easy install and they look dope. I couldn't be happier. Thanks again John!! They were worth the wait. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif John for hooking up the smoothest group buy ever. Thank you thank you thank you.

I'll post some pics manyana.

[vw18t]

Got my mirror glass today! Thanks Sco! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif My offer still stands if you need help unloading them!

[KatfishKatfish]

Heres a bad picture of the covers. My dog wants to bite someone
http://www.catfishcatfish.com/Misc/IMGA0021.JPG

[jwil]

So, John, what I was trying to say earlier was, am I one of the lucky latest six or am I S.O.L. till the next shipment? I just got my blue aspherical mirrors from Parts4VWs though. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[Scotaku]

D'oh... I forgot to update who got shipped in the second round. It's at home on my PC ('been spending lots of time at Jody's doing planning). I'll bring it up and update whose parts went out.

[big byrd]

ttt
Just wondering if mine were out for delivery or not. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

big byrd

[jarovw]

Scotaku,

Thank you once again! I installed my covers during lunch. The passenger side cover fits like a glove. However, the driver's side has a little bit of space at the bottom on the front side. You can see the space in the 3rd pic below. Has anyone else had this? It's not that big of a deal, as the normal person won't even notice, but I'm picky like that.

http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A37459-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A3745A-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A3745B-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen

[jarovw]

http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A375C9-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen

<![CDATA[ http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A375C9-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen

[Modified by jarovw, 10:42 AM 6/21/2002]

[VW'ed]

jaro, can you post pics with whole car. want to see the "full" chrome effect on satin silver. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[jarovw]

Here's another pic.

http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A38C62-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen



<![CDATA[Here's another pic.

http://www.cartogra.com/rs/D2A38C62-853B-11D6-B42B-0090277A760E/screen



[Modified by jarovw, 1:48 PM 6/21/2002]

[jwil]

http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

[jarovw]

Thanks for caring!

[Juschillin1.8T]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROTFLMAO.... jwil you are a TRIP....

jarovw I don't think picky is quite the word you were looking for... anal more springs to mind http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif But what the hell, we're all anal up in this club to varying degrees... enjoy your covers...

peace,
Mike

[jwil]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>D'oh... I forgot to update who got shipped in the second round. It's at home on my PC ('been spending lots of time at Jody's doing planning). I'll bring it up and update whose parts went out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Soooooooo?????? Good news is fine. Bad news is fine. No news is.....well.... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif

[Scotaku]

D'oh, sorry Jeff... believe me, I'm feeling like a kid holding onto a kite in a tornado with all the wedding planning that Jody has taken off with. I wish I could move in to my office for a few weeks just for a break!

These fine gentlemen got their parts shipped last: vw18t, Martz, ---TJ---, phatrabbitzz, KatfishKatfish, jarovw, and marf34.

The last box is on it's way back to Germany... empty... to be filled up again and returned. It's gonna be one well-traveled cardboard box, but it's going to help us out since Mike has had a hard time finding something to wrap up the last ten sets. There will be notice posted when they're here finally. Next day service of course. Maybe then I can hide from Jody in the empty box. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

[jwil]

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jwilson4771/smileys/Sad.gif

That's ok, thanks for the continuing effort. At least I'll probably have them for Waterfest. From what I understand of wedding planning (from my married friends) the best course of action is usually to hide until the wedding day...preferably in a local pub.

[Scotaku]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>The last box is on it's way back to Germany... empty... to be filled up again and returned. It's gonna be one well-traveled cardboard box, but it's going to help us out since Mike has had a hard time finding something to wrap up the last ten sets. There will be notice posted when they're here finally. Next day service of course. Maybe then I can hide from Jody in the empty box. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Scratch that first part... and learn a valuable lesson from your ol' pal Sco. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emhammer.gif

Never, I repeat, never leave a new bottle of carwash concentrate in the trunk of your B5. Or any car for that matter.

I'm guessing it was the heat, but the f*****g thing burst. The in.pro box is but one casualty. My trunk carpet is probably toast. It smells great, but I'm sure it will have no trouble with anything sliding around ever again.

To put it into words would just get me banned. I'm on a scale of p****d the likes of Quentin Tarantino has yet to witness. I'll be driving the Jetta for the foreseeable future. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif

[JODZ]

Any word on these yet?

[DruggedPassat]

hey Scott,

Just got back in from out of the country and havent checked the site in a awhile and was hoping to find the mirrors home but didnt. I am still interested in the mirrors and really want them. Ill take the mirrors too. Sorry for the confusion but I hope you havent sold mine to someone else. If you could please reply back to me I would appreciate it. My email is down so if you could post a reply I would appreciate it.
Thanks Drugged PAssat

[orlangba]

Trying to reach Sco - please send me an email

[bulliboy]

He's probably still recovering from the Big Huge and the time lost from wedding planning http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biglaugh.gif

[DruggedPassat]

Scott

To clear up any confusion I would like to have both the covers and mirrors assuming I can still get them. Once again thanks for the hard work and If I amn reading this coorectly you may be married soon--me too on Dec.28 in MExico as if a wedding here in the states isnt hard enough--try planning a wedding in a town that has only 1 phone.Anywayg give me a reply if possible at veedub97@hotmail.com
thanks

[big byrd]

Please don't call him Scott, as it is not his name. Sco is his nick name, short for his last name.

big byrd

[bulliboy]

Sco is John, and a hella fine guy too.

After seeing these on a few cars this weekend, I'm going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif waiting for my set. I got to see the driver side mirror glass on John's car and it's kinda cool. Ok, it's not Blue, and I'll likely go out and get a set of the Jetta mirrors later, but for now at the price I paid I'm good with this deal.

I can't remember who to connect with which car (We need pics of us with our cars in our bios), but John had the covers on and I thought Byrd did too, as well as one or two more. They look so money. I can't wait for the pics of jwil's car with these on http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/eek.gif .



<![CDATA[Sco is John, and a hella fine guy too.

After seeing these on a few cars this weekend, I'm going http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif waiting for my set. I got to see the driver side mirror glass on John's car and it's kinda cool. Ok, it's not Blue, and I'll likely go out and get a set of the Jetta mirrors later, but for now at the price I paid I'm good with this deal.

I can't remember who to connect with which car (We need pics of us with our cars in our bios), but John had the covers on and I thought Byrd did too, as well as one or two more. They look so money. I can't wait for the pics of jwil's car with these on http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/eek.gif .



[Modified by bulliboy, 4:34 PM 7/1/2002]

[jwil]

I can't wait for a picture of my car with them on either. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

The candy white with the Inpro's wasn't Byrd, it was his twin:

http://www.jwilnet.com/Graphics/GTG/BH02/R0010409a.jpg

I don't know who this is, but this car is tight:

http://www.jwilnet.com/Graphics/GTG/BH02/R0010397a.jpg

[Scotaku]

I'm catching up... muchas typing up top.

[JROO-VW]

JWIL... that would be mine!

JROO-VW = Justin

http://www.clubvac.com/images/justin_277x191.jpg

oh and thanks for the picture... I haven't taken any yet...


[Modified by JROO-VW, 6:25 AM 7/2/2002]

<![CDATA[JWIL... that would be mine!

JROO-VW = Justin

http://www.clubvac.com/images/justin_277x191.jpg

oh and thanks for the picture... I haven't taken any yet...


[Modified by JROO-VW, 6:25 AM 7/2/2002]

[Modified by JROO-VW, 6:25 AM 7/2/2002]

[JODZ]

Sco, who exactly did you send money back to? I'm only asking because I myself haven't received anything yet.

[Scotaku]

Anyone whose parts have been sent out (that I have final postage figures for) should have been issued a refund by now. I'll quiz PayPal and my checking account this evening and do some justification.

[BoeserBlick]

I'm assuming its too late to get in on this GB? I haven't read the other 5 pages...

[Scotaku]

I'm gonna pretend I didn't read that... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

Though I do have some spare glass up in the Classifieds because of a mixup.

[B5V]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Sco, who exactly did you send money back to? I'm only asking because I myself haven't received anything yet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto.http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

[Soon2bBad]

Yo whats the deal on these in.pro's..................i havent gotten anything in the mail yet?!?!?
-Dalip-

[Scotaku]

Fellas... please keep an eye on the first post in the thread. That's where the latest news gets put, bolded for her pleasure. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

[PanaSSat24]

Hey Scotaku could you respond to the email I sent you. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[jwil]

TTT - What's the word John?

[Soon2bBad]

yea....what is the good word brother john?
-Dalip-

[big byrd]

up up and away (TTT)
whats the deal Sco, I would have loved to have had these by waterfest, but I don't think that will happen, unless they come in this week and I can pick them up from you http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

The last few are getting a little http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/xyxnervous.gif

big byrd

[jwil]

Almost two weeks since the last update, I'm starting to think he's forgotten about us.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jwilson4771/smileys/sadwavey.gif

[Scotaku]

I wanna give you guys an update but the fact is, there's nothing to share. Mike has been on a flight and I'm not sure if he's back yet. He's got mail, but he's just got to get back to me.

[PanaSSat24]

Hey Sco, I haven't received the check yet.

[Martz]

Hey Sco, I haven't received a check yet. I didn't use Paypal if that helps.

Thanks bro,

Martz

[quailallstar]

Yeah I have the In-Pro covers and my drivers side was a PITA to put back in, and theres a little gap. But other than that I love em. I love the looks my car gets from other Passat, GTI, Golf and Jetta owners in Miami http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E4A3-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E491-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E497-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E49C-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E520-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
addicted to my XENONS http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif




<![CDATA[Yeah I have the In-Pro covers and my drivers side was a PITA to put back in, and theres a little gap. But other than that I love em. I love the looks my car gets from other Passat, GTI, Golf and Jetta owners in Miami http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E4A3-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E491-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E497-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E49C-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
http://www.cartogra.com/rs/31C7E520-978A-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen
addicted to my XENONS http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif




[Modified by quailallstar, 6:29 AM 7/19/2002]

[Scotaku]

Nice pics, QAS... muchas gracias!

For everyone that's expecting stuff (checks, PayPals, actual parts!) I will be making another sanity check this afternoon and in the morning. Mike is back home from Poland (not Czechoslovakia like I assumed) and hadn't gotten word about the box he needed being destroyed in the Great Soap Soaking... he's also not received the final check which went out with the first checks that you guys should have received... er... three weeks ago. It was six checks total and my telephone teller says they've not cleared. My statement won't arrive until the 25th or so.

If none of those checks have cleared, I may have a stop payment put on all of them and send out new ones. I don't want to do that until I've gotten in touch with the other three guys who should have gotten checks too.

More this evening or by morning at the latest.

[quailallstar]

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif COOL http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[JODZ]

Not to bee too antcy here, but do we know whatz happening with those of us that haven't received ours yet? Not to sound like a pain in the arse, but I'd really like to get these already. Any new info would be great. Thanks, Michael

[JODZ]

any updates yet?

[jwil]

Hmmmmmmmm. The never ending GB. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif

[PanaSSat24]

http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[Soon2bBad]

http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif

[JODZ]

can we get some kind of update please? I just want to know if this is still going to happen? Haven't heard anything in a while. Thanks, Michael

[jwil]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>can we get some kind of update please?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif

[big byrd]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jwilson4771/smileys/Sad.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

big byrd

[PanaSSat24]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jwilson4771/smileys/Sad.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[JODZ]

Has anyone heard anything on this? I can understand if there's no new updates, I just want to know if that's the case. Sorry to be a bitch, I just want to know whats going on?

[jwil]

That makes two of us. I'm starting to want my money back if the parts aren't going to show anytime soon.

[Soon2bBad]

ditto

[bulliboy]

Yea, me too. I know Sco's knee deep in wedding plans, but damn it's been a couple of weeks since the last update http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcrook.gif

[duboholic]

They used to say "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", but it seems like this is no longer true. I hoped to have these parts in time for HIN this weekend and another show in a couple weeks. Please keep us in the loop Sco, if nothing else spend all of 15 seconds to drop us a line. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/angel.gif

[jwil]

John, you've got mail.

[PanaSSat24]

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[JODZ]

Has anyone heard anything on this yet?

[jwil]

John sent me a response to my email today. He said he'd post here, so I won't speak for him, but there isn't any new news.

[big byrd]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I don't mind the wait if you don't mind the wait. That said, what's another couple weeks, for me, the moneys spent, so its no rush. As long as they are able to provide them before the big huge, I can wait.

And again, Sco, thanks for putting this together. If you don't want to wait, I will understand. You have been up front and honest for the entire group buy, wish I could say the same for that tuner who would be providing us the parts. And again I am willing to wait.

OT: Sco, are you or anyone else from the Baltimore area comming to the big huge?

big byrd<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

needless to say, it has been a whole hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks, I believe its been almost a total of 4 months since this was first put together and still no package waiting for me http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif

I begining to think I will never have these. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif

big byrd

[PanaSSat24]

Yeah I haven't received the check yet Sco. Not that I'm fussing or anything. I'm just a little iffy of what's going on because you said that you were sending the check out to me friday morning and that was the friday about a month ago.

I just want to know what's going on. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[Soon2bBad]

I kinda feel like i got a penguin from a hooker. ( for those in the know) http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif
And then had my package run over by a truck.... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif
-Dalip-

[PanaSSat24]

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[bulliboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I kinda feel like i got a penguin from a hooker. ( for those in the know) http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, I don't even WANT to know http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/xyxnervous.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[jwil]

Well, I wasn't going to speak for him, but since he hasn't posted himself, here's what I got from him:

=========

Jeff,

You're absolutely right. My work, engagement, etc are no excuse and I apologize. I've avoided the group buy thread because there has been no real news other than waiting. The last ten of the sets are still in Germany with Mike Espinoza yet to be sent... largely because the last check, the difference in what we paid versus the exchange rate we actually got, hasn't arrived. I've since cancelled the original check and sent a second one this past weekend.

If you'd prefer me to wire your cash back to you, just give the word. When your parts arrive I'll be happy to send them along to you for only their total cost so there's no extra refund to worry about.

I'll post the same to the forum. Do you mind if I quote your email?

- Sco

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Wilson &lt;jeff.wilson@bigfoot.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 20:13:24 -0400
To: scotaku@email.com
Subject: GB

John,

I was just in Paypal sending some cash to someone, and on a whim I checked when I sent you cash, here it is:

Name: John Scofield (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
Email: scotaku@email.com
Amount: -150.00
Date: Apr 1, 2002
Time: 16:20:53
Status: Completed

As you can see, yesterday was the four month anniversary of this payment. In the beginning you were extremely good about posting updates and keeping us in the loop. Since then, I know you've gotten engaged and have your hands full, but if you have the time to post in the other forums you should certainly have time to update the people whom you have taken money from. We only want to know where we stand with the delivery of our parts.

I must say that I am becoming extremely dissapointed with your avoidance of the issue. I'm not asking for good news, just some news of any type so that I don't think someone has made off with $150 of my hard earned cash. Could you please take a minute to update the group as to where we stand with this?

Thanks for your time.
Jeff

[big byrd]

Thanks Jeff for the update, at least I feel a little (read about the size of a dust mite) better about this. It seems a bit odd that John (Sco) would avoid the group buy forum. I understand the he recently got engaged and is working on wedding plans, and I am happy for him, but to begin something and then not see it to an end is just wrong. I am very disappointed in John, in the begining when there were a lot of people involved, himself included, it seemed to all be going fine, but now it just seems he doesn't want to be bothered. That in and of itself is why I am upset, not because the parts haven't arrived, but because I don't feel like I ( we) are being well informed. And again, I don't mind waiting but...its been 4 months

the saga continues,
big byrd

[JODZ]

Hey I can't wait anymore what do I have to do to get my 80.00 back?

[PanaSSat24]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hey I can't wait anymore what do I have to do to get my 80.00 back?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif That's what I've been waiting for http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/frown.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[jwil]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hey I can't wait anymore what do I have to do to get my 80.00 back?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, did you get a response?

[JODZ]

No I haven't, I guess I'll try and email him direct.

[Soon2bBad]

What the hell is going on here?!?!? Where the hell are my mirrors?!?! I really tried to keep my composure here but WTF!!! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif Sco you got some 'splaining to do.


-Dalip-

[Soon2bBad]

since i aint getting a word either way..........i am gonna bump it everyday untill someone says something...

so here it goes;;;;;;;;; BUMP!

-Dalip-

[Brian Tribble]

Weddings are expensive, you know. I hope that money was in escrow.....

[kifil032]

Hmmm... if people are getting rid of their Chrome Side Mirrors, I'll be the first to step in.

I don't need the mirrors as I already have Blue Tint Heated Side Mirrors. Unfortunately, I missed the GB, cos I was already in another GB... let me know y'all.



<![CDATA[Hmmm... if people are getting rid of their Chrome Side Mirrors, I'll be the first to step in.

I don't need the mirrors as I already have Blue Tint Heated Side Mirrors. Unfortunately, I missed the GB, cos I was already in another GB... let me know y'all.



[Modified by kifil032, 1:10 PM 8/20/2002]

[Soon2bBad]

Well kieron to sell the mirrors we (the cats in this GB) have to receive them first.......sco, i understand your busy and got wedding stuff, belive me my first cousin just had one. BUT , you do have a responsibility to those people who gave you their money. Those people would like to know what happened its been close to a month with no word either way...... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif Bad news is better than NO news.......i will still wait patiently for these mirrors and covers but for the love of GOD let us know. because right now i kinda feel uncomfortable knowing that my 150 bucks is just out there, and that i havent recived anything. Its been way past the original 2 week period that you originally stated.....it was cool then because at lest then we were getting updates and knowing x-actly what the deal was. I dont mind waiting the 4+ months it has taken for these things. But understand that you have a responsibility to the people involved in this GB, wedding or no wedding.

-Dalip-

[Soon2bBad]

Daily bump as promised untill someone gives us answers.


-Dalip-

[Z28Driver]

At this point i would suggest someone emails BF about this....its certainly starting to look a tad shady

[Soon2bBad]

Here's another damn bump as promised until someone speaks.

-Dalip-

[PanaSSat24]

Yesss, I got the check on tuesday. Thanks Sco http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[Soon2bBad]

yea but what about the people who still want the mirrors and covers???

-dalip-

[UA_Variant]

Same here.
Got the check in the mail http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif .

Thanks John

[Soon2bBad]

John if ou read this i would like a refund

-Dalip-

[JODZ]

Me too!

[MtnVariant]

Hey is this a good time to try and jump in for some mirrors? http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[jwil]

Hey Dalip, what happened to your daily bump?

[Soon2bBad]

Sorry yesterday me and joe got together to mod his airbox and got caught up doing that so to day we are gonna get two bumps.......1. in the day and on ein the night...

Today's bump.........TTT!

-Dalip-

[Soon2bBad]

And as promised This is Tom Brokaw (with bad tom brokaw speech impediment impression) with your nightly bump......

TTT.......Bump,bump,bump,bumpidty,bump

-Dalip-

[big byrd]

And another night passes with NO info.....

the saga continues
big byrd

[Z28Driver]

Anyone have this guys home phone #? or address info...seriously have you folks considered an E-fraud claim? i mean the guy at this point has not come through and taken your money...the authorities dont look too kindly on fraud...i believe e-fraud is a felony in some jurisdictions

[BoeserBlick]

Boy am I glad I was too late to get in on this. I ended up ordering from parts4vws and got mine a month or so ago... now they're just itting in my room collecting dust... I gotta get off my duff & install these...

[jwil]

You know, it's not the money or the lack of parts that piss me off so much as John completely blowing off his responsibility to the folks that paid him in good faith. I think someone better not show up for a long, long, time once this GB finally goes in the grave.

I'm going to stick it out till the first, and if there hasn't been a peep out of him by then, I'll be asking for my money back. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif

[PanaSSat24]

Bumpppppp http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif

[big byrd]

Well it's finally time to take action http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/mad.gif . I'm giving John until I get back from vacation to at least respond to this thread in one way or another or by e-mail. I am also going to e-mail him sometime today to make sure he gets the message. If I don't have a response by then, I will be calling a friend of mine in the Sheriff's department of Baltimore City, who will in turn contact the Sheriff's department in Columbia to take care of this matter. It's been a month since the last update and I'm getting fed up. I was as patient as one person could possibly be throughout this whole thing.

I need to know who has not recieved their parts and or money by next Monday so I can have an Idea what to tell my friend. I still love C http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/b5.jpg but issues like these make me a little leary about some people.

big byrd

[jwil]

No parts, no money ($150) but I haven't asked for it back yet.

Dammit, John (Scotaku), what does it take to get you to post a 5 second update??? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif

[bulliboy]

Ya know, here's the thing. I truly don't believe that there's any intended malice here, and I think everyone has been very cool about it. We all understand what a large PITA John got himself into for us to save a few bucks, and I think we all appreciate that. However, it’s damn galling that the last we heard from Mr. Scofield was over 40 days ago, when he posted ….

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Friday 19 July

For everyone that's expecting stuff (checks, PayPals, actual parts!) I will be making another sanity check this afternoon and in the morning. Mike is back home from Poland (not Czechoslovakia like I assumed) and hadn't gotten word about the box he needed being destroyed in the Great Soap Soaking... he's also not received the final check which went out with the first checks that you guys should have received... er... three weeks ago. It was six checks total and my telephone teller says they've not cleared. My statement won't arrive until the 25th or so.

If none of those checks have cleared, I may have a stop payment put on all of them and send out new ones. I don't want to do that until I've gotten in touch with the other three guys who should have gotten checks too.

More this evening or by morning at the latest.

[Modified by Scotaku, 9:27 AM 7/19/2002]

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So here we are, not only did the promised evening / morning update never occur, it’s almost September for cryin out loud! Our understanding of personal issues and wedding planning is exhausted. We’ve seen posts made by John elsewhere on the board since then, but no word offered on this thread. I understand that as time goes by it can be easier to avoid unpleasant issues rather than deal with them head on, but this only makes it worse in the long run. I’m not even all that pissed about the money, just let us know what the hell to expect!

John, pull your head out of your ass and give us an update before this turns really ugly. I don’t want anything bad to happen here and won’t be a willing party to anything legal, but everyone here deserves some information one way or another.


<![CDATA[Ya know, here's the thing. I truly don't believe that there's any intended malice here, and I think everyone has been very cool about it. We all understand what a large PITA John got himself into for us to save a few bucks, and I think we all appreciate that. However, it’s damn galling that the last we heard from Mr. Scofield was over 40 days ago, when he posted ….

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Friday 19 July

For everyone that's expecting stuff (checks, PayPals, actual parts!) I will be making another sanity check this afternoon and in the morning. Mike is back home from Poland (not Czechoslovakia like I assumed) and hadn't gotten word about the box he needed being destroyed in the Great Soap Soaking... he's also not received the final check which went out with the first checks that you guys should have received... er... three weeks ago. It was six checks total and my telephone teller says they've not cleared. My statement won't arrive until the 25th or so.

If none of those checks have cleared, I may have a stop payment put on all of them and send out new ones. I don't want to do that until I've gotten in touch with the other three guys who should have gotten checks too.

More this evening or by morning at the latest.

[Modified by Scotaku, 9:27 AM 7/19/2002]

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So here we are, not only did the promised evening / morning update never occur, it’s almost September for cryin out loud! Our understanding of personal issues and wedding planning is exhausted. We’ve seen posts made by John elsewhere on the board since then, but no word offered on this thread. I understand that as time goes by it can be easier to avoid unpleasant issues rather than deal with them head on, but this only makes it worse in the long run. I’m not even all that pissed about the money, just let us know what the hell to expect!

John, pull your head out of your ass and give us an update before this turns really ugly. I don’t want anything bad to happen here and won’t be a willing party to anything legal, but everyone here deserves some information one way or another.


[Modified by bulliboy, 4:26 PM 8/26/2002]

[bulliboy]

todays bump - http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcrook.gif

[JODZ]

Michael Jodzio gave sco 80.00 via paypal. Please let me know if you need anything else. Thanks

P.S I'm also going to get in touch with Pay Pal as well.

<![CDATA[Michael Jodzio gave sco 80.00 via paypal. Please let me know if you need anything else. Thanks

P.S I'm also going to get in touch with Pay Pal as well.

[Modified by JODZ, 10:31 AM 8/27/2002]

[------TJ------]

I never recieved my refund check for the balance after payment....around 26.00 dollars, but I now consider myself real lucky to have gotten my mirrors...Parts4vws has had them all along...the savings does not seem to be worth the hassle at all....I am dissapointed, I was very impressed at first with Scott's handling of this GB and info...I think he is in over his head now, I bet he does not even check in now, the pressure is getting to him, I am sure...hope you guyus get your refunds/mirrors....I am going to write off the 26.00 it is not worth my time or trouble.....
Have a beer with my money Scott..... calm down and finish your other buisness with these guys, it was a big undertaking on your behalf, It needs to be put to rest though...

TJ

[Scotaku]

To all who want my head, please come and get it... it hurts so bring aspirin.

Checks are out and I've watched them clear. PayPals are also out and cleared. And now that the rest of the parts are here, I'm blowing off everything else I have to do tonight to get these out the door by morning. I've done a piss-poor job of living up to my promises, but I hope this finally ends this week.

Kudos to Mike for his help despite all the crap going on in his part of the world. My apologies and thanks to everyone who held out as long as they did. Believe me, this is the last time I try to group buy without parts in hand.

[chrome007]

This wasn't the longest time I had to wait for something from a GB, but it was getting close. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif Not to sound like a broken record, but a little more communication would have saved a lot of aggravation. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that the parts will be on their way soon.

John, would you mind e-mailing tracking numbers to us?

Thanks again to you and Mike for starting this. Aloha.

[Scotaku]

Tracking numbers is a good idea... I've gotten lucky thus far with the boxes.
Consider it done with emails tomorrow once they're in the mail.

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They're in the mail and tracking numbers will be emailed individually later.

<![CDATA[Tracking numbers is a good idea... I've gotten lucky thus far with the boxes.
Consider it done with emails tomorrow once they're in the mail.

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They're in the mail and tracking numbers will be emailed individually later.

[Modified by Scotaku, 1:18 PM 8/28/2002]

[JODZ]

Sco, does that mean we are all going to get our parts now? I still want them if you have them.

[Scotaku]

You've got IM, JODZ...

PayPals are all in transit with tracking numbers in the commentary field. Please check your email boxes and watch the front step this week! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif

[Soon2bBad]

Sco if you have them i would like them instead of my money.....sheesh whats another 3-5 days?

-Dalip-

[Scotaku]

You've got mail too, Dalip.

Everyone is happy now? Or just holding their breath?

[JODZ]

http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif when are these going out? And if they've gone already what kind of lead time are we looking at? Thanks again Sco, better late then never. I can't wait to get these!


Never mind, just read the previous thread!!

<![CDATA[ http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif when are these going out? And if they've gone already what kind of lead time are we looking at? Thanks again Sco, better late then never. I can't wait to get these!


Never mind, just read the previous thread!!

[Modified by JODZ, 2:52 PM 8/29/2002]

[MtnVariant]

If there is an extra set of mirrors sitting around I'd be interest. Thanks
Rob

[JODZ]

Got my covers last night! They look Great!!! Now if I only knew how to install them. Thanks, Sco. Michael

[chrome007]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
PayPals are all in transit with tracking numbers in the commentary field. Please check your email boxes and watch the front step this week! http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/crazy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Got my package. Thanks again! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/biggrin.gif

[jwil]

still waiting. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif Freakin slow postal service.

[chrome007]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>still waiting. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/cry.gif Freakin slow postal service.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How weird. The packages shipped from Maryland, and got to Hawaii before they got to NJ? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/eek.gif

[bulliboy]

Finally, delivered, installed and stylin'.

Thanks, Sco!

[big byrd]

I am truly glad that you finally came through for us Sco, I did recieve my mirror covers when I returned and they are now on my baby. I'm glad we didn't have to take it that step further. I did trust that you would come through and I still trust you. I know you said you would never do this again, but all we needed was a little information and we would all have been happy campers.

Thanx Again Sco
big byrd

[jwil]

At last! At long last!!! My baby has new earrings!! I came home today to a small brown box on my doorstep (even though I'd left a note not to put it there and it had a delivery confirmation tag on it... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif ) but I excitedly unwrapped it and with a shout of delight I grabbed my toolbox and scurried back to my car.

Even though it was dark and I had to use a flashlight, I got those babies on. I found that there were no tools required. Follow these easy steps:

1. Move the mirror as far in toward the car as possible, and slip your fingers behind the outboard edge. A slight amount of pressure releases the clips and the mirror comes off.

2. Unplug the heating wires (white goes to the inboard connector, and brown to the outboard connector)

3. Along the front lower rear edge there are five small toungues to release, a moderate amount of pressure in a pinching action will separate the seam and release the clips. This is along the lower edge where the thin strap of plastic is on the mirror housing.

4. There are four tabs that catch four holes on the inside of the mirror housing, starting from the inboard edge, closest to the window, pull the housing straight up with moderate pressure to release the tabs.

5. The mirror cover rotates up and forward, toward the front of the car, to clear the mirror base and motor.

6. Attach the new cover by sliding over the motor and pushing straight down until seated. Make sure not to pinch either of the wires running along the back of the mirror motor, or the motor will not move. (Don't ask how I know)

7. Clip the five small toungues into place at the lower, rearward, edge of the cover where it meets the base.

8. Re-connect the wires, and reseat the mirrors.

9. Fin!

===

So, John, Thanks for seeing this GB through to conclusion, I am very happy with my new covers! I just wish there was still some sunlight left so I could snap a couple of pics.

Cheers! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif


**edit** corrected my sausage finger typos

<![CDATA[At last! At long last!!! My baby has new earrings!! I came home today to a small brown box on my doorstep (even though I'd left a note not to put it there and it had a delivery confirmation tag on it... http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif ) but I excitedly unwrapped it and with a shout of delight I grabbed my toolbox and scurried back to my car.

Even though it was dark and I had to use a flashlight, I got those babies on. I found that there were no tools required. Follow these easy steps:

1. Move the mirror as far in toward the car as possible, and slip your fingers behind the outboard edge. A slight amount of pressure releases the clips and the mirror comes off.

2. Unplug the heating wires (white goes to the inboard connector, and brown to the outboard connector)

3. Along the front lower rear edge there are five small toungues to release, a moderate amount of pressure in a pinching action will separate the seam and release the clips. This is along the lower edge where the thin strap of plastic is on the mirror housing.

4. There are four tabs that catch four holes on the inside of the mirror housing, starting from the inboard edge, closest to the window, pull the housing straight up with moderate pressure to release the tabs.

5. The mirror cover rotates up and forward, toward the front of the car, to clear the mirror base and motor.

6. Attach the new cover by sliding over the motor and pushing straight down until seated. Make sure not to pinch either of the wires running along the back of the mirror motor, or the motor will not move. (Don't ask how I know)

7. Clip the five small toungues into place at the lower, rearward, edge of the cover where it meets the base.

8. Re-connect the wires, and reseat the mirrors.

9. Fin!

===

So, John, Thanks for seeing this GB through to conclusion, I am very happy with my new covers! I just wish there was still some sunlight left so I could snap a couple of pics.

Cheers! http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif


**edit** corrected my sausage finger typos

[Modified by jwil, 9:41 PM 9/3/2002]

[Scotaku]

Actually, I'm waiting for your update post on how best to clean the bugs off without scratching the chrome. http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/wink.gif

Glad to see everyone is finally pleased, but please throw some props to our man Mike Espinoza over the pond helping pluck people from flooded roofs and treetops with his Army chopper and winch. He got them to me so I could get them to you.

[jwil]

Simple, 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol.

[JODZ]

jwil, nice write up, I get out at 11pm, I think I'll grab the mag lite and give it a shot.

[JODZ]

jwil I tried following your instructions, but I'm having trouble on the re-install getting the housing over the little clips on the front. I don't want to damage them, any ideas on doing this? Thanks in advance, they look great, now if I can just get them seated correctly.

[jwil]

I had to use a thin flat bladed screw driver as a helper to get the clips in. The InPro's are a bit stiffer than the OE covers.

[JODZ]

WOW that was quick, I'm at work I think I'll try the screwdriver that's in the roadside service pak. Thanks again

[Scotaku]

Careful man, one slip and you could scratch them... or your car!

I persuaded the little buggers inside with a little tug from behind (remove the glass) the thin bottom part of the new cover and a firm squeeze, bottom to top to coax the tabs in. Like it was made to be there.

[PhatRabbitzz]

hey scotaku, any chance you have an extra in.pro chrome cover to sell me? http://www.clubb5.com/images_forum/rolleyes.gif

[jwil]

[ducks to avoid inevitable explosion]

Given the way this thread went, that question is very much like jumping on a landmine to see what happens.