Taste of 2.0T FSI Perfomance

[chefjefe]

Greets all:

This past Friday night I went out with a friend of mine who is in the market for a $40K car. Low and behold, as we passed the Audi dealer, they had the new 2005.5 A4s. Since my friend has a '99 A4 2.8, we dropped by to check them out and we were able to take out a 6 speed 2.0T Quattro out for a drive.

In short, the new motor rocks. It feels much more torquey than the 1.8T, and the midrange has much greater punch than the old motor. In the Audi, the motor has a sweet growl, and helped to make the A4 quite fun to drive.

As a bonus, this new motor, with the more precise fuel metering of the direct injection, is rated to get 31mpg on the highway. Considering the $2.35 and up gas prices here in the Bay Area, any mileage improvement is welcome.

I am confident this new engine will perk up the B6 Passat in a major way. What I am really salivating about, though, is what that motor will be like in the new GTI.

[JamesBondage]

That badboy is just waiting to be chipped.

[wtfhappened]

Doesnt really matter, because the new GTi, ugly as it is IMO, is still heavier...

VW just cant seem to get the idea right

[gwarballs]

that engine in the a3 is gonna rock like motley crue

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/gwarballs/motleycrue004.jpg
the a3 is what the gti shoulda turned into

[passaturbonium]

I dont like the whole integrated turbo/manifold idea......turbo swap wont be all that easy now and will require new manifold.

[pete1]

I dont like the whole integrated turbo/manifold idea......turbo swap wont be all that easy now and will require new manifold.
Got a link to a picture of this? Doe it look just like what we have now, minus the flanges between the turbo and mani, or is it a whole new animal?

[passaturbonium]

Got a link to a picture of this? Doe it look just like what we have now, minus the flanges between the turbo and mani, or is it a whole new animal?
Its totally different, manifold and turbo are integrated into eachother.....anotherwords no K04s (maybe a posibility, but it wouldnt be no $800 part) and no adapters for ATP.

And we dont even know how hard VW made it for those that are planning to upgrade the turbo down the road....

[Meltemie]

with a chip only you can get about 35-40 Hp and 40-45 Tq more....it will be nice....you will much the V6 passat power....

[gig103]

I also drove the 2005.5 6spd quattro (with navigation, i should add!). I loved the car. My 2004 Passat v6 auto just doesn't feel right after that, and it has me wanted to trade in even though I only have 17,500mi on it.

Now I'm thinking about getting the A4, but I decided to come back to post about this, and decide if it will be worth waiting for the new Passat

[atomicalex]

I don't think the manifold/turbo thing will be that big of a deal. There will be a large market for a bare mani. It will show up on the aftermarket quickly.

[shuPASSAT]

Doesn't the turbocharged Neon come like that too? Change both as one piece.




Josh

[cody251]

I like the sounds of a 4 cylinder doing this.... from the Wetterauer site:

"We now offer a power advancement program for the newest 2.0 Turbo FSI (fuel stratified injection) enigne from Audi-VW.

The horsepower is advanced to 240 and the torque is increased to 360 Nm (265
ft/lbs)."

-Cody

[scotty_passat]

that sounds like chipped k04 performance in a car that is supposedly not much heavier than the B5.5 (40 lbs?) with a 6-M...good enough for me!

from UPsolute:
http://www.upsolute.com/db/new/datenblatt_eng.php?ID_Marke=2&ID=1457

the Passat should have lower driveline loss/better breathing as well (transverse motor)

Was scoping out the New A3's (sportbacks?) yesterday over at the training center, very clean engine bay with the 2.0T...cool car as well.

[slomofo]

Doesnt really matter, because the new GTi, ugly as it is IMO, is still heavier...

VW just cant seem to get the idea right
yeah, its a little heavier, but it's also 85% more rigid of a car than the current mk4 GTI. it also has a 4-link so it is more nimble handling. i'll take 200hp in a chassis that can handle it any day versus some old rabbit

[JamesBondage]

yeah, its a little heavier, but it's also 85% more rigid of a car than the current mk4 GTI. it also has a 4-link so it is more nimble handling. i'll take 200hp in a chassis that can handle it any day versus some old rabbit
What he said. The redesigned suspension will make it a drive like a much lighter, smaller car. I think VW's "back to basics" pseudo-retro attitude with the Mk V GTI will make it the best yet. Can't wait for the R36...