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    Lights don't work.

    2003 Passat Wagon. Lights head/tail don't work when I turn the knob. This is what DOES work: high beams, brake lights, hazards, turn signals. What would cause this? I checked all the fuses and couldn't find one burned out. Thanks.

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    headlight problem?

    Hey, I just lost my headlights...running lights do not come on anymore...highbeams work, and all other lights work. When I turn on my headlights, again, no light...I too checked the fuses...can't find anything wrong so far.

    Can anyone possibly help us here?

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    Well, at least there are two of us in this boat now. I think that its a little colored box in the instrument panel that is causing a short, but I don't have the time/energy to figure it out b/c it's my wife's car and is the only one that the baby can be in.

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    burned out headlights and taillights. did you think to look at the bulbs themselves?

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    No, actually. Is it possible that they ALL went bad at the same time?

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    yes anythings possible..check the fuse box.

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    See above - fuses were checked. Is there anyway that a fuse would not look burned out but is???

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    always better to measure a fuse with a meter, rather than to just look at them. once inna while, one will look good when it isn't.

    too bad car makers don't put a fuse checker in the fuse box area, eh? just a simple lightbulb circuit...lights up, fuse good; no light, fuse bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delgado69
    See above - fuses were checked. Is there anyway that a fuse would not look burned out but is???
    headlights/tailights are on seperate fuses /seperate sides for saftey reasons so you cant/dont lose both sides at same time

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    Fuse checker. Why didn't I think of that. Looks like I'm off to Autozone after work. Have to do it tonight cuz the car goes to the dealership tomorrow morning for unrelated warranty work. Is there a more detailed description of the fuses for my vehicle than the pictures on the card on the plastic cover? Where would I find that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTheSnork
    always better to measure a fuse with a meter, rather than to just look at them. once inna while, one will look good when it isn't.

    too bad car makers don't put a fuse checker in the fuse box area, eh? just a simple lightbulb circuit...lights up, fuse good; no light, fuse bad...
    Well, they (Autozone) don't have premade ones, I'm assuming its just a 9V battery socket with 2 alligator clips?

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    11 dollar multimeter will tell you if it bad or good, just touch the test leads to each prong of the fuse and the testshould make a noise or register a number.

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    Thanks. I probably need to pick up one of those anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purplezr2
    11 dollar multimeter will tell you if it bad or good, just touch the test leads to each prong of the fuse and the testshould make a noise or register a number.
    radioshack.

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    Faulty ignition switch.

    When mine went out, this is what didn't work:

    -ac fan
    -headlights (with exception of the high beams, only when you pulled the lever)
    -taillights/breaklights
    -windshield wipers
    -turning signals (except when both were turned on at the same time with the hazardous/emergency button)

    Really hope this is not your case, but really is what's sounding like.

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    Just happened to me 3 weeks ago. Pretty odd, 3 people having this happen within a few weeks.

    Fuses are fine, bulbs are fine, running lights/head lights don't work, highbeams work.


    probably gonna pay up the ass to get it fixed if I don't hear any good suggestions !

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    I hate when people ask for advice and then they suddenly disappear after their stuff is fixed and don't tell us what it was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwpwr
    I hate when people ask for advice and then they suddenly disappear after their stuff is fixed and don't tell us what it was!
    its a thankless job

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    mine actually turned out to be the bulbs...both were blown?????
    I posted my answer on the other thread of which I started...but still curious as to both? same time?

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    Okay - I just got the car back from the dealership. I was ignoring you people! :lol The light switch was bad and needed replacing. Plus, 2 of the wiring harnesses were bad, and 3 bulbs were blown. A whole slew of problems. Total cost: ~$500 parts + labor from Vaden VW in Savannah, GA. Thanks for all the help folks, and I hope I didn't upset anyone with not telling the end of the tale sooner. Honestly JUST got back from dropping it off to my wife. Cheers and thanks.

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    Sounds like you were taken or have a more serious electrical problem that would have caused all that to go bad.......

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    So, stupid operator problem. I was only checking the highbeam bulbs, never checked the headlight bulbs. Replaced them both, and things are working great.

    HOWEVER, I was a dumbass and poped out a fuse to the radio, and have lost my radio safe number.... Looks like I gotta pop it out, take down the SN and my VIN and call a dealer? Pain. In. The. Ass.

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    the radio code ought to be in your owner's manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atown Passat
    Sounds like you were taken or have a more serious electrical problem that would have caused all that to go bad.......
    How was I taken? I seriously don't think that all of the things went bad at once. The "short"(or that's what I thought it was) inthe 2 wiring harnesses was for the running lights and have been bad for a while - the bulbs probably went out some time ago and the switch? well, I didn't noticed the rest of the trouble really until that went out. So, please explain what you mean. TIA

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    headlites won't start

    i have a similar problem, i have HID's, also still have the DRL relay installed and the 1 step headlites switch yeah either on or off...

    so heres the problem this morning i release the handbrake and roll down the driveway, no lights, the DRL's should be on, nadda... (6:30 am dark as the back side of the moon)

    try the headlight switch, now i get marker lites, i jerked around a bit and if i turn the headlite switch on and restart the the car the lites will stay on, try again with out headlite switch using handbrake and can get left or right, and after may trys finally get both....

    i haven't solved the problem yet, but my gut tells me it can only be one of three things, headlite switch, DRL relay, or possibly the bypass i installed around the resistance wire to always ensure full current to fire the HID's

    will post back when i have fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider1 View Post
    i have a similar problem, i have HID's, also still have the DRL relay installed and the 1 step headlites switch yeah either on or off...

    so heres the problem this morning i release the handbrake and roll down the driveway, no lights, the DRL's should be on, nadda... (6:30 am dark as the back side of the moon)

    try the headlight switch, now i get marker lites, i jerked around a bit and if i turn the headlite switch on and restart the the car the lites will stay on, try again with out headlite switch using handbrake and can get left or right, and after may trys finally get both....

    i haven't solved the problem yet, but my gut tells me it can only be one of three things, headlite switch, DRL relay, or possibly the bypass i installed around the resistance wire to always ensure full current to fire the HID's

    will post back when i have fix
    (nevermind)

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    So VWPWR had a faulty ignition switch when the

    1) AC fan;
    2) headlights (with exception of the high beams, only when you pulled the lever);
    3) taillights/breaklights;
    4) windshield wipers; and
    5) turning signals (except when both were turned on at the same time with the hazardous/emergency button) dont work?

    I have all of the problems except tailights and wipers do work. My AC blows at the lowest level even on high. And the automatic headlights do not come on at all.

    Delgado had a bad light switch.

    I see my problem as either the headlight switch, the dimmer switch or a relay because I did smell a burning smell. My question is could I have the same problem as VWPWR (Ignition switch) or Delgado (light switch).

    Did you guys smell anything burning? How difficult is it if I want to change the ignition switch myself? I see where I can change the light switch.

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    First, I doubt if yours is the ignition switch since I believe all the items that you list all powered through the load reduction relay and some work and some don't. For example, daytime running lights (automatic lights as you called them) do not work correct? but your wipers work. Brake light do not go through the ignition switch. Do your brake lights work? No key, just step on the brakes and they should light. Does your rear window defroster work? Push the button and is the light lit? Do you have climatronic or manual a/c? Do your tail lights work? Do your turn signals work? Hazzard switch? low beams? high beams? fog lights? Go, through everything and list what works and what doesn't work. That helps to isolate where the problem might be circuit wise. Have you taken the cover off the fuse panel and looked to see it your fuses are good and if you see any burnt wires etc. Also, take the lower dash panel off and look at the relay panel for any signs of burned wires etc. Burning usually means a short someplace either in wiring, switch, or relay that is not on a fuse since a fuse should blow before anything heats up enough to burn.

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    Hey, thanks a lot for the response! That really helps save me time and money. I appreciate the response. Here are the answers:

    1 - Daytime running lights do not work.
    2 - Wipers do not work.
    3 - Brake light works.
    4 - Rear window defroster does not work.
    5 - AC (fan) does not work on high.
    6 - Tail lights work.
    7 - Turn signals do not work.
    8 - Hazard switch works.
    9 - Low beam does not work.
    10 - High beam works unless you pull the handle back.
    11 - High beam does not work when you push the handle forward.

    I have removed the fuse panel and did not see a bad fuse or any burned wires.

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    This has to be too much of a coicidence, I'm having exactly teh same problems, they all started last night when I left work at midnight.

    I smelled something burning a couple of days ago but everything was working fine so I didn't think anything of it.

    So could the load relay be culprit, I'm going to look at the relays right now.

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