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I have the UNI stg 1+ programming done to my passat that im parting out.
Is it possible to actually sell programming?
As in take the whole ECU out and ship it off?
What all do I have to make sure I send, and is it going to be effected by the fact the car was in an accident?
Yes, you can physically sell a flashed ECU. The performance software is now in that module. The module may have some trouble codes logged in it from the accident depending on what exactly happened, but those can be cleared with a scan tool. I forget what year your Passat is, but anything new enough to have an immobilizer will need to have the module matched up to the receiving car before it can be used. I'm not sure who can do that outside of a dealer. You'll need to post your modules part number in the ad because that needs to match what the receiving car uses. In other words, the ECU from a 2000 manual won't work in a 2003 automatic. I hear good things about the UNI stage 1+ tune. I don't know what Unitronics stand is on reselling modules flashed with there software.
I have to let them know I am selling my ECU with there programming?
Legally, no - at least not yet. However, based on my experience in the computer industry, if the buyer is going to get any support from Unitronics, you may have to find out what their policy is on resale of their software, and follow that policy. Remember that when you "buy" software, you've purchased a license to use it, not ownership of the software itself.Originally Posted by Limitsbreak
The may not allow transfer of that license; they may require re-registration (with or without fee) to the new owner; or (unlikely) they may provide updates and support to whoever physically has it. Check with them and find out.
Last edited by scotts13; 11-26-2012 at 05:16 PM.
I have no idea. If you're worried, that info might be on whatever paperwork came with the tune or on the website. Maybe a user agreement or software license? I bought a used chipped ECM for my first tune. I see them in the classifieds on many forums.
Edit: Scott beat me to it, but with better information.
Last edited by Steve in Chicago; 11-25-2012 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Because I type too slow :)
You went to PW to ask.. not Unitronic? This is from their website:
VW, Audi, Porsche Chip Tuning / Performance ECU Software ? by UnitronicIF I AM NOT THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE UNITRONIC SOFTWARE ON MY ECU, HOW DO I LICENSE THE SOFTWARE IN MY NAME?
Unitronic offers a license transfer for clients who have purchased an ECU second-hand with Unitronic software previously installed but licensed under a different name. ALL clients transferring software licenses must allow Unitronic to verify that it is an authentic Unitronic software file prior to the license transfer being granted. License Transfers are a one-time fee of $150. After the software is licensed in your name, you will benefit from updates and upgrades at normal update/upgrade pricing, just as if you owned the software from day one.
licensing in your name is such a joke. especially for $150. thats just $150 youre giving to them for nothing.
so, who owns the software then? unitronic doesnt own it. 98% of the code in the software is bosch's.
Maybe Bosch licensed Unitronic to alter and distribute it.
There's a very large and very rich industry that feels "software licensing" is not a joke. Matter of fact, it falls under "intellectual property", which is darned near all our country actually makes these days. Get with the program. The $150 is, granted, a little steep for a license transfer. Most companies, including Adobe and Microsoft, charge less. But it's entirely at their discretion; they don't have to allow users to transfer the license at all. And after all, you don't have to pay it; but, then you don't get support, updates, etc. on the embedded software.
Unitronics owns the rights to re-distribute the software. Whether it's because they've licensed all or part of it from Bosch, or written equivalent software from scratch (which I believe is the case) is irrelevant. I know that when you install APRs tune, at least, they have a method that allows you to switch between different programs, including an "OEM equivalent" program - NOT the original. My belief is that they wipe all the original code and upload their own. (If anyone actually knows, please correct me).so, who owns the software then? unitronic doesnt own it. 98% of the code in the software is bosch's.
you are wrong. 100%. any tune starts off from scratch using original bosch code. only the tables are modified. each tuner does it in their own fashion but in the end most of the original code is bosch's. apr is the furthest from original. their coding is very very good. but still lots of original code. unitronic generally speaking, only modifies the tables most of the time. giac works with factors and adds in their own little bit of asm to make it all work together. revo basically does the same as giac.
though, of course, what do i know? im no tuner.
just to clarify, the stock file is wiped and flashed over, however, what is flashed is still only a modified version of the original. some newer ecu's and flash tools only read the "data" portion of the file that contains mostly only tables. so when reflashed, only the modified part of the file is written.
lol. exactly my point.Maybe Bosch licensed Unitronic to alter and distribute it.
okay i bought this computer from him. VW is wanting $87 to flash it so it will work in my car. when they flash it is it going to get rid of the tune? also now i am going to have to pay $150 to transferr the software to me? with what i paid for the computer i may have been better off having mine tuned...
You're asking the wrong people. Talk to the dealer, talk to Unitronic. I suspect the dealer, for $87, isn't going to wipe the module, just re-code it for the equipment on your car. But ASK THEM; this can't be the first time they've dealt with a flashed ECU. Further, check with Unitronic and see what their policy is regarding restoring their software. A reasonable company will re-install it for a small fee (to registered users).
Register it with Unitronic, they can immo defeat it so the dealer won't need to program it to your car.
But x2 - You're asking the wrong people.
Wow..there are still people out there without a Vag-Com.....??
To answer the original question, yes, you are able to sell your ECU that is flashed with Unitronic Performance Software. As some users posted, the new owner may choose to transfer the license to their name, in order to receive support, upgrade, or update their software. The license transfer cost is a one-time fee of $150. Once licensed in the new owners name, they can benefit from the normal upgrades, updates, and support, just as if they were the original owner from day 1.
The dealership is likely charging you the $87 to sync/code your Immobilizer. The Immobilizer system is a security system that works in conjunction with your vehicle's key [FOB] and instrument cluster. If the IMMO data (SKC) does not match between the ECU, Instrument Cluster, and Key, the car will shut off within 3-5 seconds of being started for security purposes.
Alternate to paying the dealership to sync your IMMO, we can IMMO defeat the ECU, which basically accepts the handshake from the instrument cluster and key each and every time those two components request a handshake from the ECU. This will allow the vehicle to start and stay running, regardless of whether the SKC in the ECU matches that of the cluster and key.
Let us know if you have any additional questions or concerns and we'd be happy to assist further! Feel free to email me directly at j.staffi@getunitronic.com.
Thanks!
Nice.
Unitronic rep: Can you guys do a SAIP delete within the ECU? I have had P0441 for awhile. If so, can a local dealer do it through the OBDII port like with a tune?
Why do you have the P0441 code? The P0441 code relates to the EVAP system. Is your EVAP system functioning?
An SAI 'delete' will not affect the P0441 code, as it relates to EVAP, not SAI. We do offer SAI 'deletes' with some of our Stage 2, Stage 2+, and Big Turbo software, although it's not available for all ECU types/ID's.
Please keep in mind if you're doing an 'emissions delete', we can not guarantee that you'll pass emissions testing in your state/region with the emissions components 'deleted' within the software.
i can do it for any ecu. i also have sai that will pass state inspections. it is NOT a standard delete. food for thought.
Apologies, typo - meant P0411. Only talking SAI here, can your dealer delete from ECU? And can it be done on its own? Not looking to be fully chipped, just get rid of the CEL.
k0mpresd, I am nowhere near NC and this is my daily driver. What kind of turnaround can you guarantee? Would probably have to wait until I'm on a trip or something...2 day shipping there, hopefully receive and ship back same day, another 2 days shipping?
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